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Hi all

Could anyone offer any comments please. I am disappointed my tsh hasn't risen more (as i know thats all the gp would look at) Not diagnosis with anything.

I take better you spray (red one)

Ignessus b complex

I have been eating chicken liver pate 2-3 times a week to try and raise my ferratin.

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If you're not currently being treated and taking levo, as you say, with TSH, free T3 and free T4 all within range, you are unlikely to get a prescription [or a face-to-face appointment with your doctor, these days]

But if you're feeling really rough, it may be worth writing to your GP, with the blood results and a list of your symptoms, and asking to be trialled with levo. The worst they can say is no ...

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Hi thanks for the reply. I know i wouldn't get a prescription with these levels. I am just wondering if I am heading towards hypothyroidism? It might explain my symptoms

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Your high TPO antibodies confirms that you have autoimmune thyroid disease....aka Hashimoto’s

Did you know that?

Are you on strictly gluten free diet?

If not, that’s next thing to try

Hashimoto's frequently affects the gut and leads to low stomach acid and then low vitamin levels

Low vitamin levels affect Thyroid hormone working

Poor gut function can lead leaky gut (literally holes in gut wall) this can cause food intolerances. Most common by far is gluten intolerance. Second most common is lactose intolerance

According to Izabella Wentz the Thyroid Pharmacist approx 5% with Hashimoto's are coeliac, but over 80% find strictly gluten free diet reduces symptoms, sometimes significantly. Either due to gluten intolerance (no test available) or due to leaky gut and gluten causing molecular mimicry (see Amy Myers link)

Changing to a strictly gluten free diet may help reduce symptoms, help gut heal and slowly lower TPO antibodies

While still eating high gluten diet ask GP for coeliac blood test first or buy test online for under £20, just to rule it out first

Assuming test is negative you can immediately go on strictly gluten free diet

(If test is positive you will need to remain on high gluten diet until endoscopy, maximum 6 weeks wait officially)

Trying strictly gluten free diet for 3-6 months

If no noticeable improvement, reintroduce gluten and see if symptoms get worse

chriskresser.com/the-gluten...

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in reply toSlowDragon

Hi thanks for the reply. Yes i am aware of that. My antibodies have been raised for years. I was just wondering if these results would suggest if i am heading towards hypothyroidism?

I will try going gluten free

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Currently your Ft4 and Ft3 seem pretty good

But TSH is higher than majority of population....

Median TSH graph

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What are your main symptoms?

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Awful fatigue and exhaustion. Brain fog, headaches, feeling sick and generally feeling unwell and run down. Frequent urination, cold hands and feet, unable to regulate body temperature. Joint pains and stiffness. Maybe more but can't think lol.

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Non Coeliac Gluten sensitivity (NCGS) and autoimmune disease

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/296...

The predominance of Hashimoto thyroiditis represents an interesting finding, since it has been indirectly confirmed by an Italian study, showing that autoimmune thyroid disease is a risk factor for the evolution towards NCGS in a group of patients with minimal duodenal inflammation. On these bases, an autoimmune stigma in NCGS is strongly supported

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/300...

The obtained results suggest that the gluten-free diet may bring clinical benefits to women with autoimmune thyroid disease

nuclmed.gr/wp/wp-content/up...

In summary, whereas it is not yet clear whether a gluten free diet can prevent autoimmune diseases, it is worth mentioning that HT patients with or without CD benefit from a diet low in gluten as far as the progression and the potential disease complications are concerned

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