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Is there any known actions taking selenium with thyroid meds ?thanks i wanna start it but not sure about it

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SeasideSusieRemembering

No problems with taking selenium, just not at the same time, as always leave at least 2 hours between supplements and thyroid meds.

Make sure you get selenium l-selenomethionine or yeast bound selenium for best absorption, avoid selenite and selenate as they aren't well absorbed.

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Netty510 in reply to SeasideSusie

Thank you

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Arigna

Just eat a few Brazil nuts every day.

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SeasideSusieRemembering in reply to Arigna

Arigna

Brazil nuts are not a reliable source of selenium. They have to be grown in selenium rich soil and selenium content varies greatly. The packaging of the nuts needs to state whether they are grown in selenium rich soil and preferably where they were grown.

See honey-guide.com/2012/11/19/...

If the packaging doesn't state this then there is unlikely to be any selenium in the nuts.

Supplementing is the best way to know how much you are getting.

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Hashi-hacker

From Isabella Wentz...

Studies have shown that the minimal dose of selenium necessary for TPO antibody reduction is 200 mcg daily. Even a 100 mcg dose did not produce a statistically significant TPO antibody reduction.

And you are unlikely to get to that daily dose through your diet.

Some nutrition charts suggest that one serving of certain foods like Brazil nuts contains more than enough selenium, so you might think that all you need to do is eat a few Brazil nuts each day, but I don’t suggest this strategy.

Full article on this link here thyroidpharmacist.com/artic...

Personally I take 200mcg not every day but maybe 4 times a week, as there are some schools of thought that you need to supplement daily up to say a year then you can taper off.

x

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Netty510 in reply to Hashi-hacker

So if i have to taper off,is selenoum hard to come off? Im taking 200mcg once a day right now thank you

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BJ5533

Just a note. I found Sea Moss. You can Google it and get as much information as you need

I've been using Sea Moss since the beginning of January. One change I have noticed is I am sleeping better. I see my Doctor later this month and will have a chance to see my blood tests results to see how much the Sea Moss has helped.

One of the ways Sea Moss helps the body is by giving the body 92 of the 102 nutrients, vitamins, and minerals thst rhe body is made up of. My family is using it also. Positive results are noticed. I attached an article below to help wirh more information. I hope the information helps.

Thyroid Support

Most women are diagnosed with Thyroid issues in their pubescent years. Since the Thyroid is mainly responsible for regulating hormones, an imbalance can lead to fertility issues, menstrual problems and/or fibroids. These Thyroid disorders are typically caused by a lack of iodine and/or selenium. This is where Irish Moss elevates itself. It is packed with more iodine and selenium than any other food on the planet. In the Caribbean, Irish Moss is part of the local diet, it explains why significantly less women are diagnosed with Thyroid Disorders.

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Netty510 in reply to BJ5533

Hi bj sounds like a great product,but isnt iodine bad for the thyroid?im tempted to try sea moss after looking at reviews

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BJ5533 in reply to Netty510

Hi Netty

Sea Moss may work different for each of us. I'm aware of not taking too much iodine. You can take the sea moss 3 times a week or less. I take Levoxthyrine in the mornings and the sea moss in the afternoons or early evening. It is worth looking into sea moss because it also gives you 93 of the nutrients and minerals and vitamins that the human body is made of.

It is definitely a decision we each must make.

Good luck.

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helvellaAdministratorThyroid UK in reply to BJ5533

Sea Moss helps the body is by giving the body 92 of the 102 nutrients

What does that actually mean?

Even if it contains 92 nutrients, even if we need 102 nutrients, without knowing which ones it provides (and, of course, which ones it doesn't :-) ), and that the quantities are sufficient to make a meaningful contribution, we know next to nothing.

Perhaps the information is available but I couldn't find it.

(I even found one page claiming it contains 102 nutrients. Which looked like bad copy and paste.)

We also need to know which nutrients we are short of in order to make any sensible decisions.

Does that make sense?

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BJ5533 in reply to helvella

Everything you are questioning is definitely valid. Thats why I suggest that everyone does their own homework to see if its for you.

I'm not a Doctor so I can't tell anyone if they should take Sea Moss.

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BJ5533 in reply to helvella

There is tons of information on Sea Moss. I can't understand why its hard to find.

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helvellaAdministratorThyroid UK in reply to BJ5533

There are many, many hits if you search for "sea moss", yes.

After trawling for some considerable time, I found a specific product which clearly states:

450mg per capsule or 900mg per serving (2 capsules)

If the claim is that it contains 92 minerals, that works out to be less than 5 milligrams of each one. Which would be a vast overdose of some, and an ignorably small amount of others. Without more details we have no idea.

But I have still not come across anything which lists the 92 (or 99 or 102) minerals it contains.

Nor have I found a list which explains the 102 minerals humans apparently contain.

All these numbers sound as if someone, somewhere used them once and everyone else simply copied (with varying accuracy and nothing to back them up).

I am not expecting you or anyone else to know the science, to be able to establish these figures or facts. Just to post a link to a reasonable source we can use to try to understand and, if possible, verify. Otherwise it is just advertising copy and/or rumour.

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helvellaAdministratorThyroid UK in reply to helvella

I think I have reached some sort of understanding.

There are 92 naturally occurring chemical elements.

But, depending what you count, and when you counted, there could be argued to be 102 chemical elements (though there are now agreed to be 118 including some that only exist fleetingly in certain nuclear facilities).

Looks to me like a load of nonsense as a claim.

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SeasideSusieRemembering in reply to BJ5533

"Most women are diagnosed with Thyroid issues in their pubescent years"

The pubescent years being when a young person has just reached the age of puberty. I don't think that is the time when most women are diagnosed with thyroid issues at all. I think it's far more likely after pregnancy, after menopause or in older women.

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helvellaAdministratorThyroid UK in reply to SeasideSusie

These Thyroid disorders are typically caused by a lack of iodine and/or selenium.

Nor am I convinced by the hypothesis that iodine and/or selenium deficiency is the typical cause in the UK.

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SeasideSusieRemembering in reply to helvella

I agree, I think iodine deficiency in the UK is likely to be quite rare as iodine is present in common dietary items most people consume, ie milk, yogurt, white fish, etc.

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Netty510

Thanks everyone i dont know if i got hashis or not was never tested so selenium is to lower antibodies not help conversion t4 to t3?

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SeasideSusieRemembering in reply to Netty510

Selenium is said to lower antibodies but it is also said that it helps conversion of T4 to T3.

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Netty510 in reply to SeasideSusie

I didnt test before starting selenium ..can i over dose on this.or is it dangerous?

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helvellaAdministratorThyroid UK in reply to Netty510

Yes, you can overdose selenium.

Although a highly specific group of subjects were involved, I did just post about the (possible) impact of a higher dose of selenium for several years:

healthunlocked.com/thyroidu...

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SeasideSusieRemembering in reply to Netty510

I didn't test either but I am happy to take 100mcg.

I suggest you read this article:

google.com/amp/s/www.livesc...

Use selenium l-selenomethionine or a yeast bound selenium and avoid selenite and selenate.

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