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B12 to high for 7 year old boy

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Hi,

I got results and shows that my 7 year old son has a higher level B12 - 1125 ( he don't take any supplement) .

Next week I'll be going to gp, but wondering is this very bad and what else should be checked in order to ensure that everything is ok?

Thank you.

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Hibs1 profile image
Hibs1

Not an expert but from what I've read in b12d groups, high without supplements can also mean deficiency in the cells

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helvellaAdministratorThyroid UK

The Pernicious Anaemia Society forum is probably the best place for expertise on B12. Suggest you go there and post your question:

healthunlocked.com/pasoc

Of course, still welcome here, just trying to make sure you get the best help.

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Gambit62

elevated B12, in the absence of supplementation, can be a marker for kidney and liver problems - this can be checked using blood tests that look at liver and kidney function.

I know it is difficult but all you can really do now is follow up with the GP and try to get to the bottom of what is going on and take care of both yourself and your son - try do do some things you enjoy rather than worrying about what ifs.

Elevated B12 is an early sign of liver and kidney problems so if it is one of those that should increase the prognosis.

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Dahlia88

Next week we will be going to see what else can be done.

Before test I thought that my son will be lack of B12 as he is always tired and mostly people are suffering from lack of B12.

My son is 2 years on remission of T- cells lymphoma, leukemia,so that's why I worrying so much that this won't be a sign of the cancer..

Thanks

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shawsAdministrator in reply to Dahlia88

I can understand your worries and hopefully everything will work out fine for your son.

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Dahlia88 in reply to shaws

hopefully next week the cause will clear up and I will post that other people would be aware.

Thanks

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Serendipitious

My B12 has always been around the 900-1100 mark even without supplementing. I don’t have any kidney or liver issues. My GP has tested for these on several occasions. I was given a B12 shot once by a functional medicine practitioner and it made no difference to me.

I once asked about this on the Pernicious Anaemia forum but nobody had any idea. It may well be elevated at the serum blood level as others have said because the body isn’t absorbing it. Hope your son feels better soon.

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Dahlia88

there is very little in the sources about excess b12 and why that is. one thing i am afraid my gp wouldn't pass the proper tests because i had already asked him to do some research but according to gp there is no need and we did the test in a private hospital and they're back with these results,so,on Monday I'll be going to my gp to discuss about this and my expectation is to find out the all possible reasons to ensure that there is nothing about to worry.

My son had already bad childhood. He feels always tired and sometimes dizzy.

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mistydog

How are his iron levels? Check the ferritin in particular. That could cause these symptoms although still check up on the B12

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Dahlia88 in reply to mistydog

So, his serum iron is 19,7 umol/L, serum transferrin is 2.77 g/L , TIBC ( calculated) 63.02 umol/ L

% Transferrin Satn. 31.3 %

So, you is able to explain me this? We never came across with these results?

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SlowDragonAdministrator in reply to Dahlia88

Iron results are complex

We always need the ranges (figures in brackets after each result)

Has he had vitamin D, folate tested too

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mistydog in reply to Dahlia88

We'd need ranges in order to comment

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Dahlia88 in reply to mistydog

25 ( OH) vitamin D is 62 nmol/L, it looks that is in line of the level ,so,what do you think?

I can't understand those iron results ;( propably will explain next week.. have you any idea? This morning my child was feeling very dizzy and after that he got sick.

Now he feels better, but very pale and deep eyes.

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Dahlia88 in reply to Dahlia88

The reference range is an adult beside these results, so that's why I m lost.

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helvellaAdministratorThyroid UK in reply to Dahlia88

Contact the laboratory and ask them what the appropriate ranges are for his age. You can usually find a number on the hospital website or just ring the switchboard and ask.

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Anag

Im not sure, but kids have different reference ranges than adults. Please ask a good doctor. I do know that the reference ranges for adults are much too low. Japan and Korea have already corrected theirs. Ie. Sufficient amounts for B12 start at 650! With all the biochemistry studies exploding with news, there are many changes. Unfortunately, it’ll take 20 years before that all gets to the doctors offices.

Cheers,

Anag

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Dahlia88 in reply to Anag

my experience is that every doctor thinks differently. one said that B12 test need to be monitored and the other argued that he don't see any trouble, so,I would require a third opinion. I think if twice in a year the level will be checked up and won't be any changes and other blood tests will be normal then propably this can be defined as a normal for my son case.

Thank you.

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Anag in reply to Dahlia88

Checking vitamins is important depending on what your son has. If he has a leaky gut, he will be B12 deficient no matter what. This can lead to cognitive decline (especially in adults). Please check that. We are off all grains except rice and milk products and my daughter’s body and brain are healing fast. She is a new person. My father died with B12 dementia. It started in his early 60s. At that time, almost no one knew about the leaky gut problem. His upper belly was always swollen and he had irregular stool.

I cannot tell you how fast science is changing. The biochemistry field is exploding with information about how our bodies are working on a nano cellular level. Most doctors have no idea, unless they are really up to date and open to the changes. Unfortunately most aren’t. I personally have 1300 pages of notes on health and am able to help myself and my family. I invested €2000 to hop around from do tor to doctor to find the ones that could answer my mountain of questions. I have formed a team with them and my family and friends are getting very healthy. We are living for our health, in a way that we will prevent illnesses in the future. The first step to health is information from good trusted sources and them we are empowered to find the doctors that have knowledge and vision. We have to take control of our own health. I cannot even start to count how many times I or my family have been treated with wrong medications or have been given false diagnosis.

Cheers and good luck! Keep searching, you’ll get there. Anag.

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humanbean

You might find this relevant to high vitamin B12 without supplementation, although it isn't necessarily pleasant reading :

researchgate.net/publicatio...

The paper can be downloaded as a PDF file which, when printed, produces a more readable document than the link I've given.

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Dahlia88 in reply to humanbean

Thank you so much, I will read this carefully.

Every information is helpful :)

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