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I felt compelled to comment that 2,000 IU may have been much too low a dose depending on a number of factors (weight, current serum level of 25-OH vitamin D, desired serum level of Vitamin D.) I left a link to the Grassroots calculator grassrootshealth.net/projec... which would demonstrate that given my starting serum level of 29 ng/ml, a dose of 2,000 IU of Vitamin D3 would suffice for only 50% of the population to reach a goal of 40 ng/ml.

In reality my goal is to reach over 60 ng/mL. Consequently I am taking 5,000 IU per day, along with 90 mcg of Vitamin K2 MK-7 to help make sure that calcium is deposited in my bones and teeth, rather than soft tissues.

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Agree but you do have to be so careful with D because of the calcium - I am a kidney patient and the consultant said I was slightly low on D and I said I would supplement and he said no - get it from food please because of your kidneys (calcium/stones) - although K2 is a good idea I know - it still should be treated with caution - only take what you need to get levels up.

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That's all very well, but as hypos often have low stomach acid, it's difficult for them to get enough nutrients from food. Unfortunately, the majority of doctors have never even heard of low stomach acid, and didn't know it was possible.

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Greygoose I totally agree - I have studied and put into practice nutrition via supplements for over 50 years - from the age of 19 I was suffering with malabsorption - I now know one of the major issues was low Vitamin C - which caused low stomach acid - years and years later - I realise that my adrenals were grabbing Vitamin C to keep them functioning when they were under pressure because I did not get on thyroid treatment soon enough - I have regular vitamin and mineral testing (unfortunately as it costs me a fortune but is necessary) but the one I am a bit wary of now is D - although it helped when I had bone aches a couple of years ago - and as for the medical profession knowing about vitamins and minerals that is a no no - everything has to be drugs when I can prove I got through major illness by testing what I was deficient in and putting it back as my dis-ease of the body took hold with Lupus Addison's and Hashi's - I was unable to take any drugs as I had severe allergies (liver running slow on the metabolic side so became toxic with one tablet) - when I hear of people taking acid inhibitors I wince - when I had low stomach acid which caused me such pain when eating - I popped a Vitamin C tablet and the pain stopped - the exact opposite of what would be expected - so I do agree with you - but just saying calcium that may lay down in the arteries worries me greatly particularly as I am a magnesium loser. As an aside the largest amount of Vitamin C is held and needed by the adrenal glands - if you are low in C then the adrenals will grab it from anywhere - I know this to my detriment as my collagen collapsed and anything where C was needed showed deficiencies - even scurvy at one time.

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greygoose in reply to posthinking01

Lots of things can cause low stomach acid, like stress, low zinc or B12, inadequate salt intake, aging or just being hypo. But, I don't think low vit C causes it. But, of course, if you have low stomach acid, vit C will be low - as will everything else. And, taking vit C with your meals will help digestion. But low vit C didn't cause stomach acid to be low.

It's vit K2 - MK7 that get's the calcium out of the soft tissues and into the teeth and bones. And, taking vit D will increase your absorption of calcium from food. But, I don't think it will do that to excess.

You're absolutely right that doctors know nothing about nutrients. Add to that the fact that they know nothing much about hormones, and it's a wonder so many of us survive!

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posthinking01 in reply to greygoose

Here is an interesting article .....prohealth.com/library/lack-...

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greygoose in reply to posthinking01

Yes, more or less says what I was saying above. :)

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