Feeling legs hard in the morning?

[Oanav]

Hi guys,

I suffer from hypothyroidism, and are days when i wake up i feel my legs so hard and i feel like it s o hard to move. Sometimes i do have also joint pains especially from knee to down.

Do you experience the same?

[BadHare]

Have you tried taking magnesium suplements, bath soaks or transdermal skin spray?

It might help you feel better, Opt for chelated magnesium or magnesium bisglycinate, which is the most bioavalable in tablet form. If you choose to use bath salts, opt for magnesium chloride hexahydrate crystals, & use at least 400g, or 500g of epsom salts, & soak for a minimum 20 minutes. The skin sprays are expensive but it's easy to make with the aforementioned Mg crystals using about 200g to 250mls of boiled water. I make it with witch hazel & use a weaker dilutuin as it stings my sensitive skin, though it's ok to shower off after 20-30 minutes as it's absorbed by then.

Make sure you're getting enough of all the other micronutrient cofactors we need to enable our thyroid hormones & bodies to work better, too.

[SlowDragon Administrator]

How much Levothyroxine are you currently taking and how long at this dose?

When were levels last tested?

Low vitamin levels are extremely common. Low vitamin D can cause leg pain

For full Thyroid evaluation you need TSH, FT4 and FT3 plus both TPO and TG thyroid antibodies tested. Also extremely important to test vitamin D, folate, ferritin and B12

Low vitamin levels are extremely common, especially if Thyroid antibodies are raised

Recommended on here that all thyroid blood tests should ideally be done as early as possible in morning and fasting. Last Levothyroxine dose should be 24 hours prior to test, (taking delayed dose immediately after blood draw). This gives highest TSH, lowest FT4 and most consistent results. (Patient to patient tip, best not mentioned to GP or phlebotomist)

[Oanav in reply to SlowDragon]

I am not on hormons. Only tsh level is high, 6,1. The others one are okey. I have low D vitamin but i am already taking supplements for this.

B12 levels and the other for blood cells are okey aswell.

[SlowDragon Administrator in reply to Oanav]

In a post a month ago you said you had started on Levothyroxine

If your TSH is that high you are hypothyroid

Do you also have high thyroid antibodies? Have you had TPO and TG thyroid antibodies tested?

How low was vitamin D? How much vitamin D were you prescribed and have levels been retested?

B12 and folate need to be near top of range

Ferritin at least half way in range

Having one autoimmune disease makes others more likely, Lupus and Hashimoto's can occur together

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With Hashimoto's gluten intolerance is very common

Gluten intolerance can be misdiagnosed as lupus

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Lupus and gluten intolerance

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lupusnewstoday.com/2016/10/...

[Oanav in reply to SlowDragon]

Yes. I took 12 days i felt worse than ever. I stopped. Change the doc. And took adrenal supplements until now. Now I took again the TSH levels, and are slowly 6,1 in march were 6,7. On monday i have an appoitment to my doc.

[Oanav in reply to Oanav]

Vit d was 15. I take 2000 units everyday. That is maximum dose prescribed in my country.

I do not know if i am gluten intoleranced.. i did not experience problems with my stomach after eating.

I am afraid of having lupus with all of joint and muscle pain. But i do not have rashes or swollen/red joints..

[Oanav in reply to Oanav]

I feel like i am having these since this week.. and since sunday i stayed only in bed.. i do not know if these are from lack of activity as well...

[SlowDragon Administrator in reply to Oanav]

Perhaps try gluten free diet if that's possible.

Many people see a difference. Try for 2-3 months

[SilverAvocado in reply to Oanav]

Oanav, 6.1 is a substantial TSH. You almost certainly have a thyroid problem. I suspect your other thyroid hormone tests aren't okay, but your doctor just doesn't know how to interpret them

This TSH is probably also above the reference range, but your doctor may be waiting for it to reach 10 before they diagnose you. This is a cruel practice, and many people will be sick for years if not decades before that point.

All you can do is try to find a doctor who will treat you. Probably you need to educate yourself on thyroid illness, familiarise yourself with guidelines, and make a case to your doctor to trial you on thyroid hormones.

[Oanav in reply to SilverAvocado]

I tested also ft3,ft4, antibodies twice. On different months and they were good. I do not think that my doctor does not know how to intepretate them. I went to 4 doctors, the first one said i have nothing and gave me calcium and vit D, the other one told me to take hormons and gave me for 6 months hormons, the other one said to me to go to a psyhiatrist and the last one was the one i choosed o stay at.

I am not worse than last month, or march when i did my tests. I tried hormons to take, i felt so bad.

I am gonna continue doing my therapy for anxiety and taking one more month the adrenal supplements and then in july retest.

[SilverAvocado in reply to Oanav]

When you say hormones do you mean thyroid hormones? Levothyroxine, Synthroid, something like that.

It's common to feel a bit worse when you start on the treatment, it is a very slow process and takes several months to get on your correct dose.

[Oanav in reply to SilverAvocado]

Yes, thyroid hormones.