Does sun and sweating relieve pain?

[judithclaire]

I’ve been away in the sun and very hot weather for nearly 3 months. I’ve noticed I sleep better because I’m not awakened by burning feet and joint pains. Anybody have an idea why this is? I’d be very interested to know.

[Marz]

Could be improved levels of VitD and of course our thyroids love the sun Often people have to reduce their meds during the summer - I have read.

[judithclaire in reply to Marz]

That’s very interesting. I think I must have been very D deficient. I certainly don’t need paracetamol now and have run out of T3 without problems. Still taking NDT.

Also wondering, does sweating play a role to remove toxins that cause symptoms?

Bit like having a daily sauna.

[Hidden in reply to judithclaire]

I believe the Vit D from the sun has started you on the right path to resolving your aches and pains. When I was very hypo and undertreated I had chronic generalized muscle and joint pains that were so bad and was (mis)diagnosed with fibromyalgia. Before taking prescribed fibro meds I found an endo who in April started good thyroid care incl a full workup.

My Vit D was so low he prescribed 50,000 U of Vit D weekly. After the third weekly dose the pains were gone and still are.

If your days in the sun are over and you're back in the real world I would ask to have my Vit D checked and supplement accordingly especially with winter coming on.

If your doctor doesn't see eye to eye with you I would supplement on my own.

My personal doses are I am continuing the weekly prescribed 50,000U a while longer and have recently added 3000 U of Vit D3 daily. My doctor prescribed this and I sure don't want the pain back.

I also take Vit K2 which as you will find frequently mentioned on this forum should be taken with Vit D. I found guidelines here about the optimal ratio of K2 to Vit D amounts. I can't remember the formula but you could try googling. This will also tell you the reasons why taking these two supplements together is important.

BTW, don't confuse Vit K (1) with K2. They are not the same and help us in very different ways. Take care. irina

[judithclaire in reply to Hidden]

Thanks irina, I am taking vit D, + K2, but it sounds like not nearly enough (10,000 yo). Perhaps with the sun it’s finally enough. I did have a test. D turned up very low, of course. No recommended dosage so I upped to the 10,000. Looks looks like I needed substantially more as well!

[Hidden in reply to judithclaire]

I think you have a point. When the doc started the 50,000 U in April it was initially for 8 weeks. When my level was checked I was surprised that my level had only gone up 8 points.

He said not to worry. It can take much longer to get to an optimum level so am still on the high dose and will have another Vit D level at the beginning of November.

Also my pharmacist told me he has some customers who have been on high doses indefinitely. I guess some of us use it up faster or don't store or absorb so well. I don't know the answer. I like my new endo and trust he knows what he is doing.

I also looked up Vit D toxicity symptoms. I don't expect to have them but feel it's good to be aware.

I understand that taking the right amount of the Vit K2 is supposed to help us avoid high dose Vit D toxicity and checking levels every six months also helps. My K2 pills are 90 micrograms each and I take 2 a day. This gives me close to 1400 mcgs a week which along with the total amount of Vit D I take a week is close to the recommended ratio I figured out before I misplaced the formula.

It's not an exact science but close enough for government work! LOL.

BTW the Vit K2 info came not from my endo but from my Electrophysiologist. He is my total wonderful source of all medical info and I understand that the K2 helps the calcium in our bodies stay out of our arteries (they are a component of arterial plaque) and head for our bones.

Also, my GP who I like but is not a supplement fan doesn't think they really help with few exceptions. That's ok. I know they do so take them anyway.

Hope this novella is helpful. Take care. irina

[Marz in reply to judithclaire]

Guess that is the Sauna principle - sweating to remove toxins

[judithclaire in reply to Marz]

That’s what I was thinking. I had 2 amalgam fillings removed this year...

[Marz in reply to judithclaire]

Very brave !

[judithclaire in reply to Marz]

Wanted to rule it out as a potential source of the problem. They say you can’t detox with metal fillings.

[Marz in reply to judithclaire]

Do you think it has helped ? Need to read up again on the supplements that help with detoxification ... I expect you know ...

[judithclaire in reply to Marz]

I’ve mostly concentrated on my liver first (jaundice), then diet (gluten and lactose) and lately, metals. But I’ve only started exploring these.

I’d like to go through the possibilities before looking at parasites.

Slowly, as I trial the various things, I feel better and better. But I know it’s a lifelong process.

There is a great deal of information available on the web. Best to work with a trusted alternative therapist and do a lot of reading.

[humanbean]

One of the things that thyroid hormones are needed for is to keep people warm. When the weather is warm or hot then you use up less thyroid hormone on keeping your body warm. As a result you have more thyroid hormones available for other purposes.

There are some people who need slightly less treatment in summer and slightly more in winter. But I bet they don't get it from the NHS! One thing I would do if I was relying on the NHS is try to wangle an annual blood test in January or February when it is most likely to be cold. It would increase your TSH because your thyroid hormone levels in the body have been reduced just keeping you warm. Patients might be able to slightly reduce their meds in summer without bothering their GP about it.

[Marz in reply to humanbean]

Good thinking !

[judithclaire in reply to humanbean]

Very interesting thought!

[Fruitandnutcase]

I’ve always felt I ought to be living somewhere hot and sunny to help my creaky body inflammatory arthritis. This summer where I live was pretty much wall to wall sunshine and seriously hot. Guess what? My creaky body felt worse than ever, my joints aches, my fingers still ache. So, so much for that theory.

I did discover that I sweat very little these days which was strange so maybe that makes a difference - when my Graves was in full swing I was a hot sweaty blob most of the time.

My other half got hot and sweaty and touching him was - I have to say -pretty yuk! On the other hand he must be a much nicer person because he has never once commented that I was a hot sweaty blob and that touching me was yuk!

Be glad for the respite though.

PS - my vitamin D is really good and I put that down to all the sunshine and the fact I eat loads of fish, mushrooms and two eggs every day.