Just been to docs

[Jasmol]

He won’t up my meds on levo 50 teva Can’t until had blood results do you think if I dropped my meds from Saturday to Monday then have blood tests done that would long enough ? 🙃

[shaws Administrator]

This is really ridiculous - on a dose of 50mcg of Levo for six months. It is horrendous. We cannot improve on such a low dose for such a long time.

I think I'd switch doctors as this one will increase your ill-health by non-action on your hormone replacements.

Are you asking if you should miss two days' dose in order to get him to increase by 25mcg?

In fact I wouldn't bother with him at all and change doctors. Doctors are supposed to be 'experts' but very few are as they only look at the TSH - disregard the patients' clinical symptoms and refuse to increase and may well damage the patient's health altogether.

Our doses used to be between 200 and 400mcg of NDT before the introduction of TSH along with blood tests.

I doubt they know anything about the purpose of the thyroid gland and we need optimal thyroid hormones to run our whole metabolism and brain and heart have the most T3 receptor cells. We feel awful if we do not have an optimum dose. Give him a copiy of the link below and this is part of it:-

Hormones are the most powerful molecules in our bodies, controlling the function, growth reproduction, metabolism, and repair of every cell. Our bodies require optimal hormone levels, just as they require optimal levels of essential vitanutrients: vitamins,

fats, amino acids, and minerals. Insufficient hormone levels have been shown to contribute to many disorders and diseases--diabetes, atherosclerosis, high blood pressure, fatigue, loss of muscle strength, osteoporosis, autoimmune diseases,

cognitive decline, increased cholesterol levels, blood clots, increased belly fat, loss of libido, anxiety, depression, and some cancers. In addition to age-related losses, many persons have hormone insufficiencies or imbalances due to hypothalamic-pituitary dysfunction, endocrine gland failure, hormone resistance and metabolic disorders. Women are especially affected by hormonal disorders because their complex hormonal system is adapted to produce and feed babies; not to optimize their vitality as in men. Women have a much higher incidence of hypocortisolism than men (fatigue, aches,

insomnia, anxiety,depression, hypoglycemia, low blood pressure, PMS/PMDD, allergies, and autoimmune diseases). They also have more hypothyroidism (fatigue, aches, cold hands and feet, dry skin, weight gain, constipation). Women then suffer complete ovarian failure at menopause. Women are being poorly served by the prevailing ignorance concerning hormones. and.......

Conventional medicine today grossly underestimates the importance of optimal hormone levels. It remains disease-oriented, stuck in the ideas from the early 20th century. Endocrinologists are taught only to recognize and treat severe hormonal

deficiencies caused by identifiable disease or damage affecting a gland, and to provide only enough hormone replacement to "normalize" certain tests. They are actually taught to ignore the patient's signs and symptoms and all the complexities of the

endocrine system. They practice "Reference Range Endocrinology"; accepting any hormone level anywhere within the laboratory's reference range as "normal", meaning "no disease". They fail to understand that population ranges do not define what is optimal for our species, or for any individual. The laboratory ranges include 95% of a group of "apparently healthy" adults who were not screened for symptoms. They include almost everyone! Worse, physicians ignore a person's actual thyroid hormone levels and their symptoms and rely almost entirely on the wrong test, the TSH, to diagnose and treat

hypothyroidism. This illogical TSH-T4 thyroidology makes them incapable of diagnosing or properly treating hypothyroidism. It has has also corrupted the laboratory ranges for free T4 and free T3. Laboratories include physican-ordered tests from TSH-normal hospital and clinic patients in their ranges. They are actually sick patient ranges! In fact, most hormone deficiencies not due to failure of a gland--except for menopause. Most deficiencies are partial central hormone deficiencies--caused by hypothalamic-pituitary dysfunction--and partial resistance syndromes caused by genetic mutations of enzymes, receptors and

other proteins needed for hormone action in the tissues. Endocrinologists are also practically incapable of diagnosing or treating cortisol deficiency. Physicians are actually afraid of cortisol. However, cortisol restoration at physiological doses, and accompanied by DHEA, does not have the long-term negative effects of "steroids" like prednisone and Medrol. Human hormones have no "side effects" by definition! For certain, even bioidentical-human hormone replacement can cause problems when given in the wrong way, in excessive doses, or without proper balance with other hormones. Read Dr. Lindner's submission to the Scottish Parliament for a brief summary of the failures of conventional endocrinology, their causes, and the legal reforms necessary to assure that the population has access to effective endocrine care.

hormonerestoration.com/

You can give him a copy of the above and also a copy of his submission to the Scottish Parliament - if your doctor would like it.

Why ruin your health!

[Jasmol in reply to shaws]

Wow

Thank you for that info I do have a good relationship with my doctor but to be honest I felt like telling him to go to hell !!!🙃

This morning

I want to drop my meds for the test

So it gives a true result, when having full blood count done last time my vit d was low which he gave my vit d meds

I was ok for a while on levo 50 but know now that it’s not enough as the same symptoms Have creeped back in

I’ll get the bloods done and get back to this fantastic Group 😃

[SeasideSusie Remembering in reply to Jasmol]

Jasmol

I want to drop my meds for the test So it gives a true result

It depends what you mean by "true result".

If you leave off your thyroid meds Saturday to Monday then have blood tests done you will get a false low FT4. To get the normal circulating FT4 level you leave off Levo for 24 hours.

Have you not been having regular 6-8 weekly testing since starting Levo? That's the normal protocol as explained by SlowDragon in your first post here

healthunlocked.com/thyroidu...

[Jasmol in reply to SeasideSusie]

Not had tests every 6-8 weeks so hope this test may help lift my meds personal i what to try 75 levo just to see any improvement in my week being So I’ll just do 24 hours as you suggest

I’ll wait until I am my 2 - 10 shift

Cheers

[fibrolinda]

Last dose before blood test when on levo should be 24 hours 🙂