Vit K2-MK7. Can anyone give me further advice or am I'm doing ok?

[Paula101]

I have found out my Vit d spray has Vit K2-Mk7 derived from Natto. So with Natto containing soy(a), I've decided not to use this particular spray anymore.

Reading up on Chris Kresser website, I'm pleased to see that I already eat a few of the Vit K2 rich foods.

If anyone can share any other VitK2 food recommendations that would be great.

At present I eat lots of blueberries,eat organic butter, organic avocados, chicken liver pate, organic chicken breast, eggs (yolk contains K2), organic cheese, organic beef, organic broccoli. Could do with trying kale & eat spinach again.

Can I do anymore or am I already getting enough?

Thank you everyone 😊

[SeasideSusie Remembering]

Paula101

Fermented soy is supposed to the only form of soy that we hypos can have. It's unfermented soy we're supposed to avoid. Natto is fermented soy.

Here's a couple of lists of K2 rich foods

drstevenlin.com/what-are-th...

draxe.com/vitamin-k-foods/

Butter should be grass fed so not necessarily organic. I changed from organic to Kerrygold as they claim their cows are on pasture for 10 months of the year. That's probably the best we can do for a supermarket-available, reasonably priced butter.

[Paula101 in reply to SeasideSusie]

Thank you Seaside Susie for clarifying that, I do keep forgetting if it's fermented or unfermented we avoid. I'll stick with my Vit D spray then. I'll try the Kerrygold as I do love butter over margarine any day of the week. I'll take a look at the links too, thanks again 😊

[Bobbymcbobblepants in reply to SeasideSusie]

I didn't realise the soya thing. Is tofu out then? I've just taken up eating it so I eat more veggie meals

[SeasideSusie Remembering in reply to Bobbymcbobblepants]

Bobbymcbobblepants

Anything that is not fermented soy is a bad idea for us Hypos, so yes Tofu isn't recommended. It is thought that soy can interfere with the body's ability to absorb thyroid replacement hormone.

[Bobbymcbobblepants in reply to SeasideSusie]

Bugger. I thought I was being healthier eating tofu not chicken, didn't think that it could effect things

I already avoid gluten. Is there anything else to avoid completely?

[greygoose in reply to Bobbymcbobblepants]

There's nothing healthy about soy. It's ghastly stuff! If you want links to tell you how ghastly, I'll post them tomorrow. Too late tonight.

[Angel_of_the_North in reply to Bobbymcbobblepants]

Try tempeh (it's fermented) instead, but it's an acquired taste. Organic chicken would be better

[Tropicalgardener18]

Hi Paula, I'm using Healthy Origins natural vit K2 mk7 100mcg.

Does not contain gluten, milk, eggs, fish, shellfish, nuts, wheat or soy

[Paula101 in reply to Tropicalgardener18]

Hi there, thanks for replying. I'll take a look at Healthy Origins. I'm gluten free & soy so good to know HO products are free of them 😊

[Angel_of_the_North in reply to Tropicalgardener18]

If you read their blurb you'll see that "Healthy Origins® Vitamin K (from Natto) provides Vitamin K in its most biologically active form called Menaquinone 7 or MK-7 for short. Vitamin K as MK-7 has superior absorption or retention in the body when compared to K1 - the typical supplemental form. Natural Vitamin K may help to support bone health, cardiovascular health, calcium metabolism and arterial health". So it might not *contain* soy, but it is made from it - I think all MK-7 is (except Pronordic).

[Paula101 in reply to Angel_of_the_North]

That's brilliant, thank you again Angel, I'll check out the HO blurb.

[Paula101]

Thanks reallyfedup123 you've jolted my memory about aluminium. I've been using an aluminium free deodorant for 3 years now to look after my breast health.

I suppose if Natto is sat in aluminium, that's not great either. I need to do some research on aluminium.

If I remember correctly there were some old posts about how it's best not to use aluminium/teflon coated pots & pans for cooking. Iron ones are better albeit darn heavy & more expensive 🙂

[Angel_of_the_North]

MK-7 is the plant-based long lasting K2, mk-4 is the animal-based short term K2. Natto is fermented soy and therefore OK (as long as not GMO). So you could take MK-4 several times a day instead, if you are really anti-fermented soy. You are unlikely to get enough K2 from food alone if you have any sort of absorption problem - you'd need to live on extra mature Gouda or Edam cheese.

[Paula101 in reply to Angel_of_the_North]

Thank you Angel, I'll check out tempeh. I've been taking a blend of pro & prebiotics, enzymes & L-glutamine since last September and have just started NDT, which I can definitely say I feel a marked difference with. So fingers crossed any absorption issues are under control. I know tumeric also helps the gut so will start that. Thanks again.

[Paula101]

I'm sorry & shocked that aluminium has caused you to need a wheelchair. I hope it is not a long term? With becoming as aluminium free as possible & passage of time thus far, are you in need of your wheelchair less or not so?