thyroid test results

[katherine107]

my nhs test results are tsh 0.12

ft4 less 3

ft3 3.8

antibody 33.3

there are no reference ranges unfortunately. my gp says they are normal results and within range. i feel terrible though. i do not take thyroxine only t3 50mcg a day

[shaws Administrator]

katherine if we take liothyronine (T3) or NDT, our blood test results cannot correlate with T4 which is for evothyroxine alone. T4 has to convert to T3.

Before the introduction of levothyroxine, we were given NDT due only to clinical symptoms and dose was increased slowly until we felt well. We now can source T3 and it is the only Active thyroid hormone and doesn't have to be converted like T4. If you take T3 your T4 will be low as you aren't supplementing with it.

If we take anything other than levo it is all about how 'we' the patient feels on NDT or T3 only.

If you feel terrible something isn't right. Do you take T3 in one daily dose, or do you split?

Do you leave 12 hours between last dose of levo and test?: (I leave 24 myself as I take mine a.m.).

You could have something called Thyroid Hormone Resistance which means a person has to take higher doses which would knock some off their feet.

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[katherine107 in reply to shaws]

i used to be on levethyroxine years ago but felt even worse on that. i split dose of liothyrinine. 20 mcg in morning. 10 mcg lunchtime and 20 mcg about 4.30pm. i take mercury pharma on prescription from gp but i feel like it is too weak or i need more. i wonder if i could supplement with another one but not sure where from.

[shaws Administrator in reply to katherine107]

Dr Lowe stated that we take thyroid hormone replacements once daily - whatever they may be i.e. NDT or T3 alone.

I take my dose T3 once daily and that is due to Dr Lowe. He was also an Adviser to TUK.

He was an expert and scientist/researcher as well as an expert in T3 and Thyroid Hormone Resistance as well other things, He would never prescribe levothyroxine only NDT or T3 alone.

He stated that T3 has to be absorbed into our T3 receptor cells with a once daily dose and thereafter that one dose sends out 'waves' for between on to three days. It also gives us a window when our stomach wont have other things in it, i.e. food, drinks etc etc.

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I have a 'free' lifestyle in that I'm not bound to tablets. Once daily dose keeps me fit and well with no symptoms.

I was so unwell on levothyroxine and we just don't realise why that is so.

[katherine107 in reply to shaws]

you state that he would never prescribe thyroxine or t3 alone. what else would he prescribe with it? i do not take anything else. i did try once to take 50mcg of t3 all at once and became unwell ( like toxic).

[shaws Administrator in reply to katherine107]

I didn't phrase it too well. I am going to repeat or slightly change two sentences of what Dr Lowe did:-

We take thyroid hormone replacements once daily - whatever they may be i.e. NDT or T3 alone

He would never prescribe levothyroxine but he would prescribe either NDT or T3. His thyroid hormone resistant patients took larger doses of T3 which would 'knock others off their feet'.

[kiefer in reply to shaws]

Could you double-check the URL of the link you posted? It gives an error, perhaps because it's missing the webpage name at the end (something.htm)

[kiefer in reply to kiefer]

The first link. The second two were fine.

[shaws Administrator in reply to kiefer]

This should open - it is an archived site since Dr Lowe died.

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[greygoose]

Did you ask the doctor for the ranges? Was this a print-out or a verbal exchange? Always ask for a print-out - or ask to see them on the screen and take a photo - because mistakes can be made, and doctors don't appreciate the importance of ranges. Ranges vary from lab to lab, so vital to have the ranges of the lab where the analysis was done. Results without ranges are meaningless, I'm afraid.