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Last bloods

T4 20

Tsh 0.8

T3 4.1

Decided to self medicate t3. Reduced t4 from 125mcg to 100 and introduced 6.25mcg morning and rotate afternoon every other. Been doing this 3 weeks and today I feel ill. Chest pain wired. My bp won't go under 119 over 97. Pulse 87-90 bpm.

What do I do now? Scared and needing advice .

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greygoose profile image
greygoose

The first thing you must do, is add the ranges to your results. Impossible to tell you anything without the ranges. :(

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Ava1986 in reply to greygoose

My results were before I started t3 it's my bp that's worrying me.

Tsh range was 0.4- 5. Something

T4 was 9-24

T3 was 3.8-7.8

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greygoose in reply to Ava1986

Well, you certainly weren't over-medicated then - not hyper, you can't 'go hyper' because you're hypo. :)

And, I very much doubt if an increase of 6.25 mcg T3 has caused your FT3 level to rise very much. I think you probably need an increase in T3.

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Ava1986 in reply to greygoose

I take 6.25mcg every other afternoon too. Haven't taken it today as feel ill and scared I'm going give myself a heart attack 😂.

So if I need more my bp can be high? Really don't know what to do.

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greygoose in reply to Ava1986

You're not doing yourself any favours by irregular dosing like that! You need a steady, regular dose. That's probably causing your problems more than anything else. But, high bp can be a symptom of low T3.

Given your original level, I really don't think that half a tablet daily, is going to give you a heart attack.

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Ava1986 in reply to greygoose

Thank you.

It helps having someone who knows what they are on about. I don't know much really other than I believed I wasn't converting due to results but consultant wouldn't do anything as was in range. So if from tomorrow I take 6.25 twice daily then that should be ok?

Iv got a blood test form will do that Monday but it's full test minus t3 which I understand isn't worth doing if on t3? Will post results when I have theM.

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greygoose in reply to Ava1986

You weren't converting very well, that much is obvious. And, taking T3 is the best thing to do.

When you are taking T3, it is essential to test FT3, because the TSH and FT4 are totally irrelevant. Your TSH will be very low on T3 - and your doctor might decide you are over-medicated. But, your FT4 is going to be lower than before. So, I wonder what he's going to make of that! Are you going to tell him you're taking T3? Because if you don't, the blood test will be skewed, and he won't understand a thing!

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Ava1986 in reply to greygoose

Yes they are aware I'm taking it as I told them during my last pill check up as I explained I want to change from the pill to copper coil to see if it helps thyroid then explained what I was doing. Hence the blood test form and another appointment next week.

Can a gp order t3 testing? My consultant discharged me when I told him I was going to self medicate t3.... (d**k) 😂

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Angel_of_the_North in reply to Ava1986

Prepare for really painful periods, then.

You probably need to order private tests as most NHS labs won't test FT3 even if GP requests it

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Marz

In your post of 22 days ago nembers were asking for ranges. Also how are your levels of B12 - Folate - Ferritin - VitD ? All need to be optimal for you to feel well and for your thyroid hormones to work well.

Best to reduce T3 and see how you feel. Important to have vits and mineral in place before adding T3. You cannot rush these things ....

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Ava1986 in reply to Marz

I don't have them consultant just said they were all ok?

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Marz in reply to Ava1986

From reading other posts here you will know that members are always advised to request copies of all results with ranges. You can then monitor your own health and pick up what is missed 😊 You are legally entitled to them. It also makes posting here easier.

Hope you soon feel better. Have you tried magnesium ?

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Nutripea1220

119 over 97 is just below normal blood pressure -no?

Hard to imagine that 6.25 t3 would make you hyper if your t3 was low range prior.... I'll let others contradict me if necessary!

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Ava1986 in reply to Nutripea1220

The 119 is normal.

My disistolic is high which puts me at stage 2 high blood pressure ( paramedic) 😂. Just wondering if it means I'm hypo or hyper and what I do.

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Angel_of_the_North in reply to Nutripea1220

97 diastolic is too high

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Nutripea1220

I am NOT a paramedic! And yes I realize now disistolic should be 80 or less....

I have LOW BP on 125 T3... 90/70... so go figure 😐 makes me dizzy.

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Ava1986 in reply to Nutripea1220

Yeah that makes sense. so do you have to take less t3 to increase your bp?

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Lozzer66

Take your temperature is it low /high/normal.?..that should show you if you are overmedicated or not .

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Ava1986 in reply to Lozzer66

I will have to work that one out tomorrow as my thermometer is saying L0 so guessing I need to replace the really awkward batteries 😂

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silverfox7

I always think problems should be addressed before trying different medication so as Marx suggests I would try to solve the. Oncerstion problem first. The Thyroid needs Vit D, B12, folate and ferritin to be optimal before it can do this plus I'm sure the rest of your body would be if it from solving nutritional deficiencies as well. The down side is that it takes time and we are all wanting an instant fix. It took me 5-6 months for me to see from retesting that I was now back on track. The only time you can check for. conversion issues is when taking Levo alone so another good reason for not rushing to change. Yes T3 will make you feel better but is increasingly difficult to obtain plus your Endo won't monitor you and you may have to pay for testing as when on any form of T3 FT3 result is essential and must not go consistently over range.

Once medicated correctly other problems should improve

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Ava1986

Iv just got home from hospital and need to go for a 12 lead ecg tomorrow as something was picked up on the 6.

Iv been advised to stop t3 medication by the a and e doctor as it can cause heart problems and raises bp. Mine was sitting at 143/92 and has only just come down to 122/88 with no t3 for nearly 26 hours. Is this the right step and can I just stop t3 and go back to original t4 dose? I have had a blood test this morning but results won't be back until Tuesday

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Angel_of_the_North in reply to Ava1986

Yet t3 is given to heart patients ...

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Ava1986 in reply to Angel_of_the_North

Is it? I was told to stop taking it have my bloods and go from there

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Angel_of_the_North in reply to Ava1986

Doesn't mean you shouldl take it, but it is used in acute cases and around the time of heart surgery; eg: press.endocrine.org/doi/abs...

and even longer term: endocrine-abstracts.org/ea/... and onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi...

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Ava1986

Also temperature was 37.8

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