Please help...Results in! Haven't got a clue what any of it means!

[Ally000]

Hi everyone, well results are in and state in normal range....words my doctor would use too! Any red flags or are they actually fine? X

[SlowDragon Administrator]

Your ferritin is very low. This needs to be at least 70

See SeasideSusie replies on how to increase

Your vitamin D is also too low - especially at this time of year when should be at its highest - needs to be at least 70 and 100 would be better.

You could buy 1000iu or 3000iu vitamin D mouth spray (by Better You) If you buy 1000iu dose start by doing 3 sprays (in morning after breakfast) and after month reduce to 2 sprays - retesting after 3 months

Vitamindtest.org.uk -£28 cheaper option if not wanting full blood test

Your TSH could be lower, FT4 and FT3 higher. You probably need small dose increase - either 25mcg daily or could try alternate days - either way retest after 6-8 weeks

You might find GP reluctant to agree

Email Louise at Thyroid UK for copy of Pulse article by Prof Toft

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[Ally000 in reply to SlowDragon]

Amazing thank you very much. 😍

right I am ready to take whatever anyone recommends. I need energy and my life back.

I need the argument ready for doctor. But alas my brain still can't get its head around all these numbers😬. Can you help please? 🙏

Thank you again for continued support on this group. At a time where I feel I'm on my knees this forum has helped no end and given me HOPE. X

[SlowDragon Administrator in reply to Ally000]

You do not appear to have Hashimotos

Both antibodies are low

[Ally000 in reply to SlowDragon]

Well that's good news 😌

[SeasideSusie Remembering in reply to Ally000]

Ally000

I need the argument ready for doctor. But alas my brain still can't get its head around all these numbers😬. Can you help please?

From thyroiduk.org.uk/tuk/about_... > Treatment Options

According to the BMA's booklet, "Understanding Thyroid Disorders", many people do not feel well unless their levels are at the bottom of the TSH range or below and at the top of the FT4 range or a little above.

The booklet is written by Dr Anthony Toft, past president of the British Thyroid Association and leading endocrinologist. You can buy the book from pharmacies and Amazon for about £4.95.

Also Dr Toft states in Pulse Magazine:

"The appropriate dose of levothyroxine is that which restores euthyroidism and serum TSH to the lower part of the reference range - 0.2-0.5mU/l.

In this case, free thyroxine is likely to be in the upper part of its reference range or even slightly elevated – 18-22pmol/l. Most patients will feel well in that circumstance.

But some need a higher dose of levothyroxine to suppress serum TSH and then the serum-free T4 concentration will be elevated at around 24-28pmol/l.

This 'exogenous subclinical hyperthyroidism' is not dangerous as long as serum T3 is unequivocally normal – that is, serum total around T3 1.7nmol/l (reference range 1.0-2.2nmol/l)."

You can obtain a copy of the article by emailing [e-mail] , print it and highlight question 6 to show your GP.

If he doubts any of your information, tell him that you have been in touch with Thyroid UK, which is NHS Choices recommendation for information regarding thyroid disease.

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Folate is on the low side, recommended is at least half way through it's range so that would be 27+. A decent quality B complex will take care of that, look at Thorne Basic B, Metabolics B Complex, or any with 400mcg methylfolate. Also, B complex is a good general support for thyroid and adrenals.

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I agree with SlowDragon about raising your Vit D. The recommended level is 100-150nmol/L according to the Vit D Council. Also, t

here are important cofactors needed when taking D3

vitamindcouncil.org/about-v...

D3 aids absorption of calcium from food and K2-MK7 directs the calcium to bones and teeth where it is needed and away from arteries and soft tissues where it can be deposited and cause problems.

D3 and K2 are fat soluble so should be taken with the fattiest meal of the day, D3 four hours away from thyroid meds.

Magnesium comes in different forms, check to see which would suit you best and as it's calming it's best taken in the evening, four hours away from thyroid meds

naturalnews.com/046401_magn...

Check out the other cofactors too.

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Ferritin needs to be raised to half way through it's range. If your GP wont prescribe then you can buy iron tablets (Ferrous Fumarate) from Amazon but you must retest after 3 months to check your level. Take each iron tablet with 1000mg Vitamin C to aid absorption and help prevent constipaton. Always take iron 4 hours away from thyroid meds and two hours away from other medication and supplements as it will affect absorption.

Alternatively, or in addition, eating liver regularly, maximum 200g a week due to it's high Vit A content, will help raise level. Also include lots of iron rich foods in your diet apjcn.nhri.org.tw/server/in...

[Ally000 in reply to SeasideSusie]

Wow thank you so much seasideSusie. That's absolutely amazing news. I will email Louise asap. Hopefully my doctor will definitely take on this information as it's so well resourced and backed up by medical script too. Feeling hopeful! Thank you again, to you and the wonderful people on this forum. Xx

[Ally000 in reply to SeasideSusie]

Would you suggest a liquid vitamin C with the iron tablet or just regular vit C tablets? X

[SeasideSusie Remembering in reply to Ally000]

Whatever suits you. I try to keep the number of tablets/capsules down and take powder made into a drink where I can so I use ascorbic acid powder for my vitamin C (drink through a straw to protect tooth enamel). Some people can't tolerate ascorbic acid.

[Ally000 in reply to SeasideSusie]

Okay I'm happy to drink it. Any suggested brand?

I've written down;

Bio care mineral complex

Vitamin C with ferritin together (no brand yet)

Thorne basic B

Vitamin D mouth spray (to take with fattest meal)

Is that all correct?

I'm taking levo at night now. Assuming VitC and ferritin in morning?

Not sure when to take the B's do they mix ok with taking other vitamins? 🤔

Anything you can advice would be much appreciated, I've taken a look at past posts from yourself and written down info. Lots to absorb xx

[SeasideSusie Remembering in reply to Ally000]

I use Nutribiotics ascorbic acid powder ebay.co.uk/itm/NutriBiotic-...

If you don't buy that brand, make sure it's L-ascorbic acid.

Take Vit C in divided doses throughout the day, some with each iron tablet.

B vits no later than lunchtime as they can be stimulating and you don't want them to disturb your sleep.

Don't forget Vit D's cofactors -

K2-MK7 bigvits.co.uk/product.php?p... (good brand, good value)

Magnesium - whichever form is best for you, I use Natural Calm Magnesium Citrate powder (I need help with bowels) amazon.co.uk/Natural-Calm-S... (bigger size is better value). Normally advised to take in the evening as it's calming but needs to be taken 4-6 hours away from thyroid meds.

Don't start them all at the same time. Start with one, give it a week or two, if no adverse reaction add the second one, give it a week or two, if no reaction add the next one, etc. If you do have a reaction you will know what caused it if you add them individually like this.

[Ally000 in reply to SeasideSusie]

Wow that's amazing thank you. 😍 I will purchase all off the above recommendations and give sometime. Shall I start with vit B?

[SeasideSusie Remembering in reply to Ally000]

Well, it looks as though your ferritin is the worst result, but you could start with eating liver for now and maybe start supplements with Vit D as that's quite low. Then K2-MK7 followed by magnesium. That's D3 and cofactors sorted. B Complex next perhaps. Your urine will probably be bright luminous yellow when you take B Complex, that's the Riboflavin (B2) and normal.

[Ally000 in reply to SeasideSusie]

Thank you for your help. Hopefully I will be able to come back to this group to mention improvements 🙂

[maxart]

I'm not as knowledgeable as others here but I can see Vit D is way too low and TSH too high. T3 probs low too. I sorted my D with 10000iu Softgels - easy to find online and cheap too.

So-called 'normal' is so often not. Very cross-making!!

[Ally000 in reply to maxart]

Ahhh yes everything highlighted as normal?! I feel cross too. 😡 I don't understand that there is that much research and highly documented confliction, yet we are all still dumped into the "normal" bracket? Surely highlighted here in how many people feel awful and lost.

Thank you for your help. I'm on Amazon to get my vitamins and minerals 🤗