Armour not helping anymore

[vanessa2]

Had to come of Levothyroxine as I had terrible aching joints, weight gain, fatigue so bought Armour for two years & it was like a miracle, lost weight, had energy, no aching joints. Went to see endo & he was all for me taking Armour & recommend my gp giving it me on nhs prescription. For 2 years I have been getting my nhs prescription but now all my old problems have come back, weight gain, aching painful joints, Brian fog, lost my eyebrows. Gp has increased or decreased my meds depending on my blood test results, should I be taking supplements, I take selenium & other vitamins, but am I taking the right ones. Just want to get rid of this weight & pain was going to body blitz excercise class until Xmas when I started with pain & had to stop.

[SeasideSusie Remembering]

vanessa2 On what basis is your GP altering your dose of meds? Can you post your test results (with reference ranges) and tell us where he's been altering your dose.

As for supplements, what are you taking?

What are your results for

Vit D

B12

Folate

Ferritin

Have you had antibodies tested, are you positive for Hashimoto's?

[vanessa2 in reply to SeasideSusie]

No antibodies test been done, no mention of it, it's just the multivitamins & iron. Sorry I have hunted high & low for my test results can't find them. I take 1.5 grains 5x a week & 2grains 2x a week.

[vanessa2 in reply to SeasideSusie]

All that has been taken is my Serum free 4.7. (3.5-6.5)

Serum free T4 9.3 (9.0-23.0)

Serum TSH 0.83. (0.25-5.0)

[vanessa2]

What gp does understand, because my blood test keeps coming back within limits he can't refer me to endo.

[silverfox7 in reply to vanessa2]

The ranges in the UK are far too wide but if you are within the range and still have symptoms that should be a. All for him to send you to an endo

[Magne17]

Obviously seeing your bloods would help but I had my dose reduced on Armour due to tsh and I had a huge breakdown in my wellbeing and symptoms all back. I nearly fainted a few times, off balance, loads of symptoms. So it could well be you are just underdosed. even a small drop can make significant change in my case. I'm very slowly raising and now feel better, within 2 weeks. if they don't like it, I'll be going it alone. I will never risk feeling like that again.

[Chippysue]

It is a low dose.

Some people don't get on with armour since they changed the formulation. It certainly sounds like you are not taking enough to me!

[vanessa2]

I do get my results just misplayed them so been to get a copy.

Serum free triiodothyronine level 4.7 pmol/L (3.5-6.5)

Serum free T4 9.3 (9.0-23.0)

Serum TSH 0.83 (0.25-5.0

This is all I have on my test.

[SeasideSusie Remembering in reply to vanessa2]

vanessa2 Your free Ts are far too low, you need a dose increase to get FT3 towards the top of it's range if that is where you feel well.

Without current results for vitamins and minerals no-one can answer your question about whether you are taking the right supplements. Aching painful joints could be low Vit D.

It would be an idea to test antibodies to see if you have autoimmune thyroid disease aka Hashimoto's, in which case being gluten free would help reduce antibodies.

[vanessa2 in reply to SeasideSusie]

It's a multi bit tab I take

Vit c 80mg.

100% RDA iron 14mg

100% RDA e 12 mg

100%RDA a 800mg

" " " ". Vit d3 5mcg

" " " ". Selenium 220mcg

400% RDA

Other ingredients microcrystalline, cellulose, dicalcium, phosphate, silica, magnesium, stearate.

[vanessa2]

I have been to surgery & got a copy of my results, posted them on here.

[vanessa2]

I have always for years had the first blood test appointment & for years fasted before this, but my gp told me I don't need too. So my last two tests have come back within limits, but feel terrible & it's only happened since I did not fast.

[mavrick33]

hi i am new to all this i have had under active thyroid for about 4 or 5 years now i do not understand any of these things on here i feel terrible all the time im tired all the time ihave anxiety headaches and pampatations all the time i am on 75 mil of thyroxine tablets can i get another medication that will make me feel better