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Hi not sure if people know but Cytomel is back!! From the old supplier whose factory was closed☺ they are still having issues with payments though I have ordered and an waiting for a PayPal link.

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Are you talking about Mexico - I am having major problems with them they want me to pay by something called Bitcoin - which is going to cost a whole lot more money - I have an e mail address of somewhere in the States but they charge huge amounts - can you let me know the e mail address - thanks

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yes when i ordered they advised they would send me a link to pay by paypal if i didnt want to use bitcoin.

regards

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I was amazed to read this. I checked with the Mexican pharmacy I used to use most often, and they have it in stock. Not sure about payment methods though - investigating.

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I've just placed an order. I used the same cc I've used before with this site, but after I entered card details I got a message saying that they would send me a PayPal link instead. If the link doesn't arrive within 24 hours, I may cancel the order.

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hi yes that is the response i got i ordered at 7am and am waiting for the link but i checked and its only about 8.30 in mexico so i am hoping by tonight our time they will have sent me the link as i have used this sight for years previously with no issues.

regards

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Didn't think of the time difference. Doh!

lol it took me a while to realise i kept checking for the link then realised and when i looked it up it was the middle of the night in mexico. :)

Hi

do you happen to know what other ingredients are in Cytomel?

Many thanks.

hi when i get home i will check the empty bottle i have and let you know

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Many thanks.

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lucylocks, In case you are not aware, the product under discussion on this thread is actually CyNomel made by Grossman. As opposed to CyTomel made by Pfizer. It's important to make this distinction because the excipients of each will be different.

Unfortunately, although CyTomel is Pfizer's brand name for their liothyronine, it is frequently used as if it is a generic name for any liothyronine, which it is not. There are various brands of liothyronine, and each will potentially have different excipients, but you may notice any and/or all of them referred to as CyTomel at various times, in various places, by various people. :)

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Thank you for explaining.

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Thank you.

I know the link is for Cytomel but are the are the one's you refer to been back in stock Cytomel or CyNomel?

Lucylocks,

Ellismay has posted ingredients of Pfizer Cytomel.

Grossman Cynomel has been unavailable for 2 years so it may have been reformulated. These were the ingredients 3 years ago:

Corn Starch

Calcium Sulfate Dehydrate

Sugar glass

Talc

Sterate acid powder

Gelatin

Ethyl alcohol

Purified water

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Many thanks Clutter.

lucylocks, the ones people are talking about on this thread are cyNomel and will likely have different ingredients to the ingredients of cyTomel that ellismay has listed for you. It's so annoying that the names are so similar, because it causes no end of confusion :)

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Thank you RedApple.

Filias, Please provide more information to substantiate your claim. Otherwise, it is just a potentially malicious rumour.

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Filias, All of this is simply hearsay. Nothing you've written so far proves anything at all.

However, members should take what you've said as a warning, and investigate for themselves by getting in direct contact with the suppliers before parting with their money.

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I heard the same thing Filias did on another place so I don't think it's a hearsay. I think that it would be wiser for them to get it touch with those who don't have it, than to those 2 who claim they do, they have the reason to lie, otherwise they won't get the money.

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Filias As I've already said below...

Your cautions have been noted. Members should make their own investigations before parting with their money, rather than simply believing gossip.

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You are right Filias, I heard the same thing I think o Ray Peat's forum or somewhere else. And yes I checked, there are only two website, non of the other say that they have it.

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123_go Not all website sell all medicines! The fact that only two are offering it is not in itself proof of anything at all.

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I was talking about those who were famous for selling it before - if you like the links I'll send it to you.

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123_go,

Absolutely not the case.

There are dozens of websites offering Cynomel.

What is difficult to know is which are operated by whom. That is, is there one company behind all of them? Or many companies? There are some tell-tale traces but it can be tedious checking through them all. And two sites which are very different could still be operated by one company.

There were many, now most that have it in their offer have a small print 'out of stock" or "check for availability".

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Have just checked a few - in stock at several, out of stock at several.

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Your cautions have been noted. As I've already said, members should make their own investigations before parting with their money, rather than simply believing gossip.

Thanks ellismay. I don't think the issue here is with the website/s as such. It's apparently about people ordering one brand but receiving a different one that they would not have bought if they'd known.

I'll have to wait and see whether I've been scammed. I could still log in with my old account details - not sure whether that's a positive sign or not.

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Hillwoman, It seems a bad idea for a business to scam a long time valued customer. After all, if they scam you, it's not as if you're going to keep quiet and not tell us all :) Keep us posted!

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Absolutely. I'll comment again here as soon as I know more.

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Yes I've logged in on my old details but as yet they haven't sent link for paypal.

ellemaereading and Hillwoman

Did you enter CC details and if so, are you able to check your CC account to see if money is being taken, as suggested in comments below by margartex and fatty10?

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I can't check just at the moment, as I can't do it online. I'll ask my husband to phone the cc company in the morning, when I'm only semi-conscious.

Edited to say, yes I did enter cc details. I received the standard acknowledgment of my order with an assurance of an update on progress. We'll have to see how it pans out.

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Yes I entered credit card details I've checked account nothing appears to have come out and several people on another site I am on have ordered and received with no issues so will just have to wait and see what happens.

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My husband has just phoned to say there are no unexpected charges to the card.

We'll keep checking, but from memory the pharmacy doesn't charge until despatch.

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Just as well you edited your comment rowan-1, otherwise it did seem as if you were being racist.

Nevertheless, just because one pharmacy scammed you, does not mean that all Mexican pharmacies must be tarred with the same brush.

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I understand rowan-1. It's a sad fact that we live in a world full of people who are out to make a fast buck and don't care how they do it or who they hurt along the way :(

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rowan-1, Here's a question... one particular mexican pharmacy I have just looked at is advertising CyTomel in the wording but shows a picture of CyNomel. These two names are actually two different brands from two different manufacturers.

Now, if I were to place an order thinking I was buying CyTomel, but receive CyNomel, would that be a scam? They are both T3, as was the product being shipped previously when CyNomel went out of stock.

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rowan-1 What you are alleging is of course why credit card companies will no longer allow online pharmacies to use their payment facilities.

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What kind of website would ask for all your credit card details and when you fill them you receive info that you have to pay by Bitcoin or with something else. Isn't this already a sort of scam. They are misleading you that you can buy with credit card so when you give them all details, then they can do whatever they want with it. They can empty your account if they want to.

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margaretx, Has this happened to you?

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It is absolutely not important did it happened to me or to someone else, I am pointing that this is deceiving - why is somebody asking for your credit card details if you can't pay with it. That's the whole point nobody here seems to realize.

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Finally someone with the comment with a point here. And by the way just read on the website of one mexican online pharmacy (famous for taking a lot of money and sending nothing 2 years ago), that they are the one who paid for production of "new Cynomel". So even if it exist it's fake, that's why those who at least keep a bit of integrity don't have it. If anyone wants to read this, PM me. And nobody has the right to ask for your credit card details if this is not for paying with it.

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Is this brand supposed to be better quality or stronger than UniPharma T3?

Leverette,

No, both contain 25mcg active ingredient. It's just that some people preferred Grossman Cynomel to other brands.

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Thanks Clutter!

Just to put in my two pennyworth, the very last time I ordered from the Mexican source, I did not get Cynomel from Grossman. I got Abdi Ibrahim Tiromel. When I complained I got a flea in my ear and was told not to buy according to a picture, they don't sell pictures, they sell pills.

Since then I have just continued to get the Tiromel from source though it seems as if the price is very similar. The payment is easier than to Mexico, a simple bank transfer with my name as a reference, I have got used to it, though I do have to take more of the Abdi Ibrahim tablets than I did the Cynomel. .

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Further to my comment above, I have been assured that this will be the Grossman Cynomel. Now I just have to figure how to pay!

Learning all about Bitcoin at almost 72 years of age? Oh well, another new experience! Bring it on......

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Update: I received a follow-up email from the pharmacy (signed by a name I recognised from previous contact), saying that they could not process my payment and would I consider paying by Bitcoin. I declined politely. I'll keep checking the cc transactions, just in case.

It seems that people belonging to another thyroid/T3 group have managed to buy Grossman Cynomel from Mexico, but I'm not sure how they did it. I don't want to enter the realm of Bitcoin, so I'll have to keep taking the Tiromel. Much prefer Cynomel...Oh well.

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That's quite a claim. The members of the online T3 group who have received the Cynomel from Mexico are, as I understand it, quite carefully scrutinised before joining by the person who runs that group. The OP will correct me if I'm wrong.

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Further update: I've been contacted by the pharmacy to confirm cancellation of my order. In the same email they forwarded links for alternative payment methods via Moneygram and Western Union. I have a WU account, so I'm considering whether to go ahead with a new order, bearing in mind there is no consumer protection for this kind of transfer.

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Hillwoman,

There's only consumer protection when using credit cards which have withdrawn merchant facilities to online pharmacies which don't sign up to FDA's LegitScript ie prescription required. PayPal's t&cs have never permitted prescription meds to be sold and bought so I'm not sure there would have been consumer protection even if PP had been used as a payment method.

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Thanks.

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I'm guessing there are many, many people who don't want to get involved with bitcoin Hillwoman. It would certainly make sense for the pharmacy to offer alternatives if they are concerned about losing potential sales.

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Hillwoman, thanks for keeping us updated on your progress with this.

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I don't know why was my comment deleted. I just wanted to point out that as a member on tpauk and moderator on another health forum I had the chance to read many comments by people who ordered from this same online pharmacy. All of them were given only Bitcoin as option how to pay, nobody else got Western Union or MoneyGram although the were regular customers. You are the only person saying that they sent you this, so I think I have the right to think what is going on and what kind of game they are playing.

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Didi2,

Your previous comment was deleted because it read as though you were implying that Hillwoman was lying.

Didi2 and Hidden

Perhaps the sites have found customers are cancelling their orders rather than pay using Bitcoin and have decided to offer WU or Moneygram as alternative payment methods.

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Some posts have been deleted.

No more posts about whether the site accepts payment by Bitcoin, Western Union or Moneygram please. If the site does not accept WU or MG they will advise Hillwoman to make payment via another method before they fulfill her order.

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In the nick of time given the withdrawal from NHS in some areas.

Please pm me the info on the mexican pharmacy TY

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