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Ward round went well in some ways. Thanks to you I showed him 5 or 6 or 7 empirical studies showing dose range! I showd him a schedule of transition of t4 to t3 and how t-l3 is worth 3 times levothyroxine and how, and in theory all t4 keeping me well could be trained for t3 (it's not evil) and in a document/study from wales you guys supplied that this can be done in the community, and we'll though still very apprehensive I offered to free up some resources and continue the transitions at home..... as now he has budged off of a ceiling of 10 mcg ofT-l3 it's gone up to a possible 60mcg.!! ! This thanks to you all is really positive..... but, and this is why I said I'd go home before increases is as I would have to weight 5 weeks before each raise of 10mcg of t3 because of the thyroid axis taking that long to take effect. .... I think..... I know he's write but I know he's wrong because raises in the studys you gave me all took weeks for 50 mcg not half a year as he is offering! I don't think I'll need 50 though ( 5 incremental changes =50mcg and 5 increments.=5 changes = 5 x 5 weeks .= 25 weeks (half a year).

I was flabbergasted and I wished that I had you all with me but I got stuck and phased out in my rational and let you down, at a hurdle. The rest we won. This is a good start to Jewish new year.... let it be a sweet one for everybody ! It also magically coincides with Muslim new year and that dosent happen often (2 calenders.) The year represents 'in the beggining 'and Adam and eve, witch apparently happened 5777 years ago! (The year it is in israel) Just so you know. But really, for me. A grate start and I owe a lot of it to all you. So from the bottom of my heart - cheers guys and lachyim (to life) and thankyou. Let's just hope it starts to work nowπŸ˜†πŸ˜†πŸ˜†πŸ˜†πŸ˜†πŸ˜†πŸ˜†

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Mazel tov Michael! I'm so pleased it has worked out for you.

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waveylines

Thats brilliant news! Well done to you as well for argueing your case so effectively!!

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Fruitandnutcase

Well done Michael. We might not have been with you but we were all behind you. Here's wishing you the. Best of health for your New Year. πŸ™‚

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radd

Michael,

Great news for you as T3 has helped lots of members in so many ways.

Many members have found the body tolerates well increases of 5mcg T3 each week whilst reducing T4 and it is important to monitor T3 levels by blood testing as too much can be dangerous. Once you reach your supposed optimal dose, hold for six weeks, test and post results complete with ranges (numbers in brackets) for members to comment.

Some members have found taking pulse and temps is useful in charting progress and reminds us to be mindful of the T3 potency.

Thyroid hormone deficiencies affect us all in different ways and although T3 has a short half life, so affects are felt within hours, the actual healing for whole general well-being can take many months. I found adding T3 initially bought additional unwanted symptoms but time has now allowed a good recovery.

Lots of luck and keep posting your progress.

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Jose651

Best wishes Michael, you're a Star. 🌟

J πŸ€

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Kitten1978

Well done Mike ;))

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SilverAvocado

Mike, I've taken almost a year changing my dose over to NDT. I'm being a bit over cautious as I've been on a lot of different doses before. I think it's worth it to be sure you haven't skipped over your ideal dose.

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nightingale-56

Well done for fighting your corner Michael. Onwards and upwards.

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I am glad you've won a big battle and you're quite right to want to get home and treat yourself.

You've been in a very difficult situation and doctors are afraid of T3 for some reason(I think its not based on fact but rumours and I think it's because the Pharmaceutical companies want to sell more T4 as it gets them billions of $ each year plus the 'other' medications for the symptoms.

Just take it easy at first taking note of your temp/pulse before you begin. If you were taking levo before you can switch from the dose to the equivalent of T3. The 'effect' of 25mcg of T3 is between 75 and 100mcg. You can then increase your dose slightly every two weeks. Any very fast pulse/high temp etc drop back to previous dose.

Jus,t by the way, this is an excerpt from the archived website:

I urge you to sign up to receive alerts from the Alliance for Natural Health: Alliance for Natural Health.

Some legislators are friends of Big Pharma, and these legislators' actions make it clear that they'll use their influence to try to deprive us of natural methods of protecting our health. If they succeed, we'll be enslaved to Big Pharma's drugs to try to control the illnesses we'll develop from our lost natural health protections.

An example of such a legislator is California's Representative Henry Waxman. As Bette noted, Waxman attempts to sneak anti-dietary supplement legislation deep into the back pages of unrelated legislation. I consider this unscrupulous of him. In my opinion, Waxman's actions are diabolical in their potential harm to US citizens, and we need the Alliance for Natural Health to protect us from this legislator.

web.archive.org/web/2010103...

This is another excerpt from the same link dated November 9, 2005

The problem I'm facing is that my TSH is very low and my T3 is high. On occasion, I feel that my heart is pounding or I feel anxious. Other than these symptoms every once in a while, I don't feel overstimulated. But because of these symptoms and the lab results, my doctor wants to take me totally off T3 and send me to a local endocrinologist. I've inquired at the endocrinologist's office and learned that he doesn't believe in using Cytomel or your protocol. What can I do? There must be other options than just taking the Cytomel away completely. I feel good now and live an active lifestyle. I don't want that taken away. Please help. I'm desperate not to go back to the way I was before.

It is certainly a Happy New Year for you.

Best wishes.

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puncturedbicycle

mikepassword while I was googling some info for your psych I came across this blog by a doctor in the US. It may not be of much use to you as regards doctors, but you may be interested to read the comments on this entry. evolutionarypsychiatry.blog...

There are several blog entries discussing t3 and mental health and on that particular entry several commenters report similar experiences w mental health problems resolving w t3. If you have a few minutes you might enjoy reading it.

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