Anybody tried cider vinegar? The bloating and weight gain is getting me down.... Plus my guts (sorry) are I think backed up although I go (sorry again).... Then swelling feet and ankles today worse than with the heat of last week.... Any tips? Advice? Thanks in advance people šš»
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MrsSAcky Yes I use organic apple cider vinegar with the 'mother', have done for a long time. Betaine HCl with Pepsin didn't work for me but ACV does. I use this one ethicalsuperstore.com/revie... . If you get some, make sure it has the 'mother'. It makes a quite reasonable drink if you dissolve some honey (to taste) in a cup of warm water then add a tablespoonful of ACV (work up gradually to that amount). You might want to drink it through a straw to protect tooth enamel. I take mine just before my evening meal. I used to take it twice a day but find I'm OK just once a day now.
For your gut health, a good probiotic and if constipated try some Psyllium and Apple Pectin lifestyle-labs.com/products... - take no notice of how many it tells you to take, I take one each evening and find that's enough for me (and I'm the queen of constipation!).
Not sure about swelling feet and ankles.
The mother? Lol....
Got some regular cider vinegar to start tbh... But thanks for advice going to look into it deeper
You can get 5 lit bottles of bionta apple cider vinegar on Amazon that include the mother.....
Thanks I'll look š
MrsSAcky The 'mother' is living enzymes, nutrients and good bacteria. For good gut health you can't get much better than that. ACV without the 'mother' won't be as good for your gut.
Great understood..... My apple cider in the kitchen isn't much use... But a start I suppose, thank you š
btw sjep13 its easy to tell the difference, the acv without the mother is clear-yellow, acv with the mother is murky, looks gross but its good stuff and the 5 litre one is the cheapest i've seen. best also to check that the label clearly states 'the mother'. hope it works for you.
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I use the same as TupennyRush and it's far superior to the supermarket stuff. I didn't start to see improvements until I used this one. SeasideSusie is offering sound advice as usual x Also take pre and pro biotics and Cranberry Aloe Vera. Swollen ankles are helped by wearing Dr Scholl supports socks available on prescription.
seasidesusie - i happen to be the king of constipation ;o) this is amongst the worst of all my symptoms. i was under the impression that psyllium is merely a fibre supplement , is that true ? i've heard about apple pectin before but do you know what is its actual effect eg how does it work ?
Rainbow100 Ha ha, what a pair we are!!!
Sometimes I know the answer but have difficulty explaining it, but I will try and give you the explanation my practioner gave me after I told her I'd stopped the Psyllium husk and Apple Pectin and was only using magnesium citrate and Vit C.
Mag citrate and Vit C have a laxative effect. Laxatives are stimulants and make your bowel lazy because they move the waste through so your bowel doesn't have to do any work.
Both Psyllium and Apple Pectin are both water soluble fibres - mucilages, and mucilages retain water (hence they tell you to drink a certain amount of water when taking it). This bulks up the stools and helps soften stools thereby making movement through the intestine easier and elimination easier and it's your intestines/bowel doing the work. Psyllium also helps the friendly bacteria grow thus contributing to good gut health.
Does that make sense?
So, talking of constipation, if you haven't already heard of it do check out Squatty Potty squattypotty.co.uk (watch the YouTube video with the unicorn š ). It makes a lot of sense. I've got a Squatty Potty and it does make a difference but you can improvise instead of buying one.
seasidesusie - isn't ironic that kings & queens sit on the throne ! ;o)
i've tried psyllium but it didn't seem to work for me, do you take yours with meals ? i get constipation real bad despite good diet, plenty of water etc for many years and i absolutely have to take mg, vit c, aloe, it really worries me :o(
i was even on small amount of senna every day for 3 yrs as my herbalist casually assured me that it's perfectly ok. eventually i succumbed to lots of people telling me constant use is bad for you and switched to the ones mentioned. i am certain the senna made things worse.
i'm going to have bloods done next week and i plan to add t3 depending on how that goes. to be honest i think i'll try it anyway because the ndt is making no difference at all. i'm clutching desperately to the hope that this will make it better, a number of people have said their digestion issues cleared up soon after adding t3. i've read STTM, dr. P's book, read through many t3 posts here and reading p.robinsons book right now.
I hope you get relief. I too was on senna cause psyllium didn't work for me either. I have terrible problems with digestion and bowels. I even bleed when I go sometimes. It is so frustrating cause nothing works. When they raised my thyroid meds it helped for a while but always comes back. Good luck if you find an answer please do let me know. THANKYOU
hi nanny23, i too have had bleeding with bowel movements but if it take enough mg citrate, vit c, aloe, probiotics etc then i find it softens the stool enough and no bleeding. which meds are you taking and what dosage are you on.
as i mentioned previously, if/when i start t3 replacement (on ndt at moment) and if i notice an improvement i will be sure to post it here. good luck.
I'm on 50mcg synthroid. Just raised from 25 about 2 months ago. Got rid of gluten did not help stomach. I do have diverticulosis and 4 polyps removed in May at colonoscopy. I take magnesiumbut it's not citrate. How much magnesiumcitrate and c should I take. Did get apple cider vinegar with mother just started that. I also take vitamin d b12 folate and a good multi vitamin from supplementstore. Don't know why but my dr wants me to have a sigmoidoscopy in August. I just had colonoscopy in May and they removed 4 polyps. Can't understandwhy they want to repeat it on lower colon. The constipation is very stubborn unfortunately. THANKYOU so much for replying.
nanny23 - i have bought natural vitality natural calm product which is mg carbonate in powder form, if you get this you could prolly start on 100mg. i also have health leads mg citrate product which comes in 400mg capsules, nat calm product is a lot more effective but it doesn't come in capsule form. vit c you could prolly start with 250/500mg with food and see how you do.
just shout if you need any other info :o)
THANKYOU so much. Do you take this any particular time of day? I take my Synthroid at bedtime.Can I find this on Amazon?
nanny - sorry for the delay, yes you can get nat calm on amazon, you can also look on their for any other mg citrate/oxide supplements, most of them are in capsule form. for me they only work if i take them with food, you may need to experiment. i also take vit c with food for same reason. i take my ndt all in the morning.
THANKYOU so much I found it on Amazon and ordered it. Do you take the vitamin c at same time as calm. I'm crossing my fingers it works for me. THANKYOU so much
i take both of them with meals nanny, so i guess i do take them at the same time. i generally like to take supplements with food. hope they work well for you and let me know if you need anything else.
You are a god send THANKYOU so much
Rainbow100 kings and queens on the throne š
Was it just psyllium husk you tried before? I have some of that in the cupboard and it didn't help me either. But the Psyllium and Apple Pectin does. It contains Vit C, magnesium citrate, psyllium husks, activated charcoal, lactobacillus acidophilus, berberine HCl, chlorophyll and apple pectin. My practioner told me to take it in the morning but I actually take it late in the evening. The bottle days to take 6 capsules x twice daily. I take just one.
How much Vit C do you take? Dr Myhill says to take 2 grams ascorbic acid at bedtime to produce a bowel movement the next morning. I use the L-ascorbic acid form by Nutribiotics as it's supposed to be better than the D-ascorbic type.
I wonder if your long term use of senna has actually made your bowel forget what it's function is?
Or, maybe there is something physical going on inside that is causing the problem. Have you discussed it with your GP, maybe he could send you for a camera up to see if everything is OK???
seasidesusie - my queen ;o)
i've tried taking the vit c 2g at night but i find it only helps if i take it with food. i had no idea about the difference in action between d & l form, i haven't checked but i bought a cheapo from holland & barrett so i suspect its l-form but thanks for that tip, i'll try it out.
also could you please let me know which brand of apple pec and psyllium you take ? i'm sure the senna didn't help but i had the constipation long before that so i doubt that my present condition is entirely due to that.
i had full gastroscopy approx 3 years ago and also about 13 years ago, both came back clear. i'm desperate to get better, hope something works.
Rainbow100 Your majesty š This is the brand of Psyllium & AP I use lifestyle-labs.com/collecti...
and this is the L-ascorbic acid Vit C I use amazon.co.uk/NutriBiotic-As... . I use the powder form to cut down on the number of tablets and capsules and it was a bit cheaper when I bought it, worked out at 4p per gram. I mix it with some OJ, makes it a bit more tart but it's fine.
You can take Vit C to your personal bowel tolerance, best in divided doses although as a one off you can actually take 6-8 grams in one go to produce a bowel movement.
I usually take 4 grams a day between three doses, 2g before bed, 1g before breakfast and evening meal. Then the mag citrate (350mg dose) during the evening.
Hi there
Oats (gf if you're hashis etc) work wonders. I make muesli with 1 part oat bran to 2 parts oats (plus nuts, seeds and dried fruit) which I eat with raw milk. It works a treat. I tried it after I saw a test on Trust me I'm a doctor where he ate oats for (I think) 2 weeks and tested his poo for good bacteria before and after. The best 2 bacteria had increased mightily and better than with pro biotics.
Gave it a try and I really know when I don't have it.
Ooo really.... Trouble I get so bored of cereals but never made my own just always make sure low sugar š
Me too but you can 'sex it up' by adding different nut and fruit mixes. When I can't have a proper brekkie I grab oat cakes. My hubby does porridge but it's slime as far as I'm concerned. Yep you can add honey and stuff but it's still slime underneath in my opinion 
Slime pmsl..... I've been in grief with belly ache a few days, and had pasta for tea too and it's tipped me over the edge lol... Feel rotten right now
The slow down of the digestive system is a real pain in the a**e if you excuse the pun. ACV does help, I do take Senokot or Magnesium Citrate 500mg which can feel a little gentler. Though I do have to take a double dose when I take Senokot.
These were the big problems for me (bowels and bloating) until I was on enough meds and a bit of t3, and then it went more or less overnight. It may not be much consolation right now but you shouldn't have to put up with this forever. Once you've found the right dose and/or the right kind of medicine for you it should go.
You might have seen my other posts I had to play up for my meds to be changed, and the bloating bowels and swelling is just getting worse.... Hoping another increase will help after next bloods.....
Yes, I saw your previous posts. So it looks like you were low on more or less everything (b12, iron, folate) and your t4 had gone down possibly because of your low dose of meds (can suppress your thyroid's production of hormone). So it may continue to get worse before it gets better, when the hormone reaches a therapeutic level. And in my experience it was the t3 boost that helped, so if that doesn't happen for you on levo keep in mind you may benefit from a little t3. Just as a plan b.
Has your gp excluded other causes (ovaries, intestines etc)?
Nothing yet.... I'm due to go back beginning of sept after my bloods, so I'm going to go thro everything then, as I'm keeping a diary of sorts
I found my bloating and digestive issues all cleared up when I gave up gluten. Have you given that a go?
I agree, wheat and barley really upset me. I've been on ACV for about 6 weeks now and seen real improvement. I'm now trying to cut down the complex starchy carbs to a minimum but find oats are still good.
I tried cider vinegar a few years ago. I felt much better on it but gave up because it was too harsh on my sensitive virtually-no-enamel-left teeth. (I've also had to give up apples, wine, pineapple and even strawberries and fizzy waterfor the same reason.) Apart from being rather acidic on your teeth, it's safe and pretty cheap so why not just try it?
Healthseeker It's best to drink it through a straw to try and prevent damage to tooth enamel.
Thanks for the tip
Raw honey is best as a sweetener. It is a little more expensive, but much better for you in the long run.
I'm buying a squatty potty! Even if it was the unicorn video that made me do it lol...
Thanks for all your advice too guys x
MrsSAcky š lovely isn't he (or she). I think I want one as a pet (unicorn that is, I have a Squatty Potty already).
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