Feeling better

[Adam10]

Incredibly I'm better these past two days. Increased from 50 then 75 now to 100 mcg one week ago and started vitamin D 5000 iu daily from three days ago. Can it be that quick? Can it last. Is this a flash in the pan?

[Marz]

Normally Vitamins and Minerals take time to work in the body. The T4 increase could be helping the T3 level to come up to a level which makes you feel better. Remember what GreyGoose explained in an earlier thread T4 is a storage hormone and has to convert into T3 - so it may indicate you are converting well.

Don't forget to have your VitD re-tested after 6 months. Don't increase the T4 too quickly. Also you could be feeling better because you are learning so much more and taking control of your health - which is positive and can make you feel good too.

Am sure it is not a flash in the pan - but do also be patient and do not rush....

[silverfox7]

May be! I agree with what Marz has said that it could be a combination of things giving you a boost but to briefly share my Vit D reponse-I was given a booster dose of 20,000 IU, one a week for 12 weeks. The next day I felt so good, the rest of the week rubish so I rhouggt its all in the mind! But the following week I was good for 2 days and the next 3 and so on! So may be the Vitamin D did work that quickly though I was taking much more on that first day so may be had a bigger impact. So I hope your improvement is sustained but I think it's also a general feel good factor as Marz says as well. Keep an eye of things generally, I'm a great believer in taking things slowly so as to be sure which change is doing what as that is a big help for the future if things go a bit haywire. Fingers crossed Adam that this is the start of better health for you!

[Adam10 in reply to silverfox7]

Thanks to all for your comments, very helpful. I appreciate it. In addition to increased dose and dupplrmenting I've been exercising in gym for 30 minutes each day followed by 10 mins sauna (my apartment block has one), wonder if that has helped.

I watched the excellent Ivor Cummins video that Marz mentioned and this did make me feel enviro rated to understsnd my vitamin D deficiency which must have been low for decades. I noted vitamin D has half life of 24 hours so went for daily supplement. Thank you everyone.

[danceforever]

Just be careful you haven't increased too much, too fast. the thyroxine takes up to 10days to have a proper affect, so if you start feeling horrible again , that could be because it has stated to work and you may need to cut back a bit.

[Adam10 in reply to danceforever]

Thanks danceforever. i went from 50 to 75 mcg on 14 December then from 75 to 100 mcg on 14 January based both times on blood tests and Endo advice. Does that sound quick?

[RustyMary in reply to Adam10]

No, it doesn't. I went from 25 to 50 to 75 at 2 week intervals, began to feel better (my initial TSH was 240 so my body was desperate for thyroxine) then after about 6 weeks went up to 100 and after a week or so began to feel really well for the first time. Watch out though - after about 2 and a half months on 100 my thyroxine levels dropped again, but because they were still within the 'normal' range no-one understood what was wrong with me even though my symptoms actually put me in hospital! After a thread on here I realised that I was hypo again and asked for an increase to 125mcg which I'm still on - it took 2 months to recover to where I had been, but am now feeling well again. I'm on a gluten free and almost dairy free diet which is helping, and am about to start vit D supplements too. Hope you continue to go from strength to strength!

[Clutter in reply to Adam10]

Adam, that sounds perfect. The improvement you are feeling is probably the 75mcg dose starting to kick in and making you feel well enough to exercise.

[shaws Administrator]

Hi Adam, yes it can be that quick. When our body gets the appropriate dose of hormones it is able to work more efficiently, so hope it continues for you. Sometimes we have to adjust our medication for our bodies needs. i.e. if its too hot in the summer we may need to reduce and the opposite in the winter.

Best wishes.

[Adam10 in reply to shaws]

Thanks shaws. how does temperature affect hashimotos? I was ok last summer and autumn until October when the temperature went very cold and I got the flu. The endo said this might have caused my TSH to go from 2.79 to 25 (twenty five). Could that really be?

[shaws Administrator in reply to Adam10]

I don't know if that's possible re TSH i.e. 'flu. Low body temp is a clinical symptom of hypo. With the land temp, our bodies have to work harder to give us warmth and vice versa in summer.

[RustyMary in reply to Adam10]

As I look back with hindsight, I was hypo for at least to years before being diagnosed in April 2014. I'm sure if I had been tested in spring 2013 my TSH would have been sky-high, but I recovered in the warm weather and reduced stress of the summer, and went downhill again in the winter. I live in the alps so the temperature difference between summer and winter is big.

[helbell in reply to shaws]

I'm glad it's not just me that feels dose change very quickly...very useful info

[Jackie]

HI Vit D takes a month to reach optimum levels, watch your calcium does not go over range.levo takes a month or so but it may be the accumulative affect kis now working. NDT is very quick, a few days.

Jackie

[Chippysue]

I will give you the same advice a fellow thyroid uk trustee gave to me:

As soon as you start to feel better only do 75% of what you think you can do.

Don't over do it as it will take longer to improve.

Really pleased for you.

Sue

thyrouduk.org

[Polaris]

I'm glad you're feeling so much better.

Like others here, I also experienced a huge spike in energy after taking high dose vitamin D3, as well as B12. Apparently, most of us are deficient in vitamin D. I wish I'd found this link years ago:

Richard Shames, MD: " This particular vitamin is so crucial to thyroid function that its status has now been elevated by researchers to co-hormone. We now know that the variability of thyroid to work or not work in your body is dependent upon the presence of Vitamin D, making it not just of benefit, but absolutely essential."

" Thyroid treatment isn't optimal -- and may not work -- if you do not have adequate Vitamin D for the crucial final metabolic step, which takes place at the site where thyroid hormone actually works. This happens inside the nucleus of the cell. Vitamin D needs to be present at sufficient levels in the cell in order for the thyroid hormone to actually affect that cell. That is why vitamin D is so crucial."

thyroid.about.com/b/2010/09...

[danceforever]

Hi adam, yes that is quick. You need to be careful now that you don't go over!.

Most times it pays to go by how we feel and by the weather.

Less in summer, more in winter.

I would stay as you are for atleast 2 months, but in that time if you start to feel horrible again, ask for a blood test, as you may need to cut back again.

I find when I take too much, my fatigue gets worse, and I get depressed and migraines, but if I stay low I seem to manage better , but bare in mind , I am extremely sensitive to the thyroxine, so my case is different.

we are all different really, and that is why we need to follow how we feel, more so than the bloods.

[Adam10]

Thanks danceforever. Regarding outside temperature, should we plan each spring and autumn to adjust dosage? And for holidays if going to colder or hotter climate zones? I currently work in middle east where climate is very hot most of year but then it's very cold on return to UK.