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A close friend shared with me about a friend's dad, who successfully received treatment in Mexico two years ago. Today he is doing well in spite of late-stage cancer (hoxseybiomedical.com/clinic.... As we all know, NO clinic or hospital can guarantee recovery. But I am interested in trying this, in addition to the treatment I am receiving. It isn't as expensive as I thought. If I do try this, my friend can go with me since she is familiar with the area (she works at a school that does a mission's trip there every year). Has anyone here tried anything like this.

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blms profile image
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Yes, I have heard of it and have seen some videos on this place. If correct, it was founded by a Texas oncology nurse and seems to have some amazing results. I wouId go myself and will if my metastatic disease furthers. I am new to this stage 4, after 20 years remission of stage 3. So, I am experimenting with Ibrance and I will see what happens over the next few months. In the mean while, I am attempting to starve my cancer cells with dramatic diet change, and have been successful to this point. No sugar or white flour is critical. cancer is fed by sugar-no question medically about that, But eliminating sugar is not easy as it is in EVERYTHING.

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robinbru in reply toblms

Certainly added sugar is not part of a healthy diet, and having excess weight can increase our risk of cancer, but there is no evidence that "sugar feeds cancer" in the sense that it is targeting cancer cells.

aicr.org/reduce-your-cancer...

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blms in reply torobinbru

Not the case. think about how PET scans work.

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RLN-overcomer in reply toblms

There are studies by accredited hospitals that agree that sugar is not good to ingest when you are actively fighting cancer. My girlfriend has had 4 recurrences , and is being studied, since 1996 by Memorial Sloan Kettering, and is now not only told to not eat white sugar, brown sugar,or cane sugar. She is now limited to 1 piece of fruit daily, and the doctors are contemplating stopping that also. She also has to limit her white flour intake to almost nothing, which we all know turns to sugar. Warriors please do the research of the studies at the larger accredited hospitals.My girlfriend is so small that it does concern me, because of these limitations on her diet. She eats vegetables and fish, and chicken.I am trying to encourage her to add avocados, coconut oil , and other healthy fats to her diet. blms you are absolutely correct about the pet scans. Warrior/Sisters misinformation can adversely affect our outcomes. I pray God will allow information that is beneficial to those of us struggling to beat this disease Amen.

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blms in reply toRLN-overcomer

Thanks for the response RLN! I believe we all, whom are fighting this battle, need to do the research and not think these restrictions are just nonsense-because they are NOT. The docs in general no nothing about nutrition so not the best place to lay all your defenses down with what they say. Plus, whether we want to think it or not, all of our docs are in bed with the pharmaceutical companies and get kick backs on all oncology medicines--yes they do. Now I do not want to take any chances, so, I do everything I can which includes conventional meds. Maybe that is what has allowed me to go 20 years after aggressive and stage 3 breast cancer in remission. I believe my stress lowers my immune system and thats what caught up with me so here I am again in the journey of healing.

Sloane Kettering also has amazing resources online for checking your supplements with medications, etc. And Yes, fruit is also sugar, not to say all the containers in your refrigerator and cabinet that have cane sugar added--poision! Not too many of us are that disciplined to continually eliminate all of these things--and I occasionally cheat and have pretzel sticks with mustard, etc and every so often a piece of cheesecake (yes, discipline not the best) but all flour turns to sugar quickly and cancer LOVES sugar! So, why do we want to continue to feed it instead of helping starve those cells. People do it all the time, it can be all of us as well. In addition, yes, when I first began my change of lifestyle, I lost 10 pounds, now 118 ( so never over weight) but I am 68 and should not be any less. But, it is not about the weight but trying to get rid of the cancer and/or the spread. Where I am currently unsure is with some powdered supplements which I include in my coconut milk shake that are berry base. i have not been able to get a strong answer one way of the other. And YES, get rid of most oils in your closet. Avocado oil, can get a good one at costco inexpensively, is a great substitute for high temp cooking--also good added to night cream for skin! So many tips. I am also planning on a second option at Sloane in the Spring--once this never-ending winter is gone!! Keep the tips coming we all appreciate it.

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SusieIM in reply toblms

Thank you for your feedback

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Selmac in reply toblms

Is honey considered sugar and Stevia also? In 2013 I ask my Oncologist about sugar. He said it's not true. I really like him but think some Drs don't think about diet and things like that. I live in a very small area and finding anything organic is tough.im not much of a meat eater but did find a local farmer who sells beef that is organic. My husband thinks I'm crazy because I try to buy organic. I also eat a lot of fruit and never thought about the sugar. Please keep talking about these things. It's pretty much unheard of around here.

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SusieIM in reply toSelmac

I get the impression that doctors have different opinions about sugar or maybe even haven't done enough research on it themselves. I am hearing from more and more sources, that sugar is not good for any of us that have cancer. If we can reduce our intake, that's good.

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blms in reply toSelmac

Also unfortunately our water gets most problem from The run off of round up but also we get extra Spraying at different times of the year so that’s another reason why we just problematic

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blms in reply toblms

Making dietary lifestyle changes is really a pain and very difficult. But if you decide to do it it legitimately feel so much better. Try finding and buying wild fish instead of farm raised if you can.

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SusieIM in reply toRLN-overcomer

Yes it is important to do research.

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blms in reply toSusieIM

where does your friend that went to Sloane Live?

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RLN-overcomer in reply toblms

Brooklyn, N.Y.

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blms in reply toRLN-overcomer

convenient but I am not too far in D.C.! I was also considering Dana Farber but now maybe leaning to S Kettering. I go to Lombardi at Georgetown currently.

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blms in reply toblms

It is just so difficult to find the combination information that I am searching for. I know I am on the right track but would like it confirmed and elaborated upon

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blms in reply toblms

Ladies, this is a 24/7 job but worth the effort and taking some personal responsibility is important for recovery, I believe. Plus, not to negate the power of prayer and belief in God.

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RLN-overcomer in reply toblms

I have heard about these cancer treatment locations in Mexico that treat and kill cancer from a friend, but he told me the government shut all of the locations down, except for one that still operates, in an underground facility.You can also look into the C.T.C.A. Cancer Treatment Centers of America. Yes girl you are your best advocate after our creator. Stay encouraged stay,empowered Amen

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blms in reply toRLN-overcomer

I want to CTCA i Philadelphia. Although I was very impressed with the oncologist I saw there and the neutropath, I did not and was not impressed overall.

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robinbru in reply toRLN-overcomer

It IS recommended that we reduce sugar in our diet, but still the evidence is not there for sugar causing cancer.

mskcc.org/blog/no-sugar-no-...

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RLN-overcomer in reply torobinbru

My response was to blms , and anybody else that would be watching their intake of sugar. I never said that sugar causes cancer. If I were actively fighting cancer I would not consume sugar. From the studies I have read sugar intake can help the cancer to grow and progress faster in the body of those diagnosed with cancer, and those actively fighting cancer.There are people who get paid lots of money to support the very profitable sugar industry, including pharmaceutical company's.These profit making businesses won't put out a statement saying sugar is great for cancer patients, nor will they put out a statement saying sugar can cause cancer to grow in the body of those diagnosed with cancer. I don't want to waste my time responding to this subject, again., but I am not going to let you or anybody else give those fighting cancer an excuse to consume sugar,or consume even more sugar as they are fighting to be healed of this disease. This could be detrimental to their survival. I am my sister's keeper. May God bless us all.Happy Saint Patrick's Day Warriors XoXoXo

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NPmary in reply toblms

Dear blms, l congratulate you on eliminating/decreasing sugar. I suggest you check it nutrtionfacts.org Dr Gregor's web site it really is excellent, scientifically backed up with evidence. I and my family are following a whole food, plant based, low sugar, low Sal low oil diet. I think it is helping all of our health and contributing to the good results l am getting on the Ibrance. You can check out the books How Not to Die Cookbook, Forks Over Knives Cookbook and the How No to Die Book. Take care, blessings, Mary.

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blms in reply toNPmary

Love the title--How not to die!! I agree 100% with you and do hope this makes the difference. And ladies, you will be surprised how full you feel all the time.

Question, any of you feel like you have to eat alot more than normal while taking Ibrance? I don't really feel nauseous but feel odd if I don't eat. Mind you, I am NOT gaining any weight as I have restricted sugar and wheat--and of course corn and soy. But I don't feel quite right if something is not in my stomach and I never felt that way before.

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Blms, l can't say l really feel like that I've lost weight from the diet and from the cancer. Sometimes l have no appetite but l eat all of my meals - l am very lucky my daughter is a great cook! About soy - never eat any kind of processed soy (the only processed foods we eat are no oil no sugar whole grain. Bread once a week and whole grain pasta occasionally). It's actually ok to eat soy like example but the processing of it is what makes it want your body to produce the estrogen. Take care, Mary.

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blms in reply toNPmary

Look into dr Steven gundrys book plant paradox! I think you will get scientific info very helpful! I bought the book you suggested earlier on amazon. Don’t bother with his diet book

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NPmary in reply toblms

Thank you, Mary.

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Kimr2081

I have not heard of this place but i think all options should be investigated. I would be interested to hear if you end up going.

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SusieIM in reply toKimr2081

I will be sure and post here, if I do actually going.

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blms

There are a couple of places in Mexico. Which one are you looking into?

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SusieIM in reply toblms

I am looking into Bio Medical Treatment Center. Their web site is info@hoxseybiomedical.com

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blms in reply toSusieIM

I will check that out. Where are they located and where are you?

My daughter is currently being treated at Dr. Kleef in Vienna through immunotherapy. There are a lot of good books out there such as : Cancer, a metabolic disease, the truth about cancer, radical remissions and the Miss report. The Miss report summarizes all complementary options that are available along with the studies referencing it! Good luck to us all

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it actually the MOSS Report! sorry about the typo

I have not done much research on cancer cures or treatment. Sometimes the more you know the worse you feel. I am thinking about getting a marijuana license for the times I am nauseous. It sometimes lasts for weeks, and my ear doctor suggested I try it. You are very brave to travel so far for treatment. I hope you find away. Bless you.

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