CBD oil with Buprenorphine

[smilingjane]

Hello friends

I have an appointment this week with a private clinic to enquire about the feasability of me trialing CBD oil predonmenantly to help with sleep but also to see if it helps with my RLS.

Obviously I would need to reduce and stop my current Medication, low dose Buprenorphine to see if was effective for RLS.

Has anyone out there tried this combo for sleep? I am very concerned that my GP on being told I am trialing this would stop my Buprenorphine.

I have to give the doctor this week my GPs details ; so they will be told.

I think I am answering my own question here. I wouldn't do anything to risk my Buprenorphine being with held from me.

If anyone has taken CBD oil and low dose Buprenorphine in combo I would be interested to know how and if they worked in conjunction and also how difficult it was to obtain?

Thank you

[Qalba]

I take 5 mg of methadone 3 times a night and take a CBD gummie for insomnia. I see no side effects. The combination works well for me. I also use a CPAP for sleep apnea. I get adequate rested sleep although it is in three segments. There is still an occasional RLS breakthrough, but that isn't often.

[smilingjane in reply to Qalba]

Thank you for getting back to me Qualba. It sounds like your combo is working for you. I am wondering though, do the gummies have TCH in? Did you buy the Gummies online?

I am particularly interested in finding out if any people out there have been prescribed Cannibas oil alongside opiods?

I have a feeling that many GPs out there, (UK) may be reluctant to prescribe both together for concerns re addictions.

I suspect that not not enough is known in the medical profession - not enough trials etc done?

Greatful for any thoughts

[TheDoDahMan in reply to smilingjane]

Hello, Smiler,

My RLS symptoms are nearly completely controlled by my 10mg/day regime of low-dose methadone. I live in a THC legal state and thus avail myself of a long pull of high-potency cannabis dried flower each night before bedtime. I do like the space that it puts my head in, but wouldn't say that it helps the methadone as far as relieving my RLS symptoms. I feel the same as you do about not wanting to risk my methadone script by mentioning any cannabis ingestion.

And, no gummies with anything more than negligible amounts of THC are allowed to be sold online in any country.

[smilingjane in reply to TheDoDahMan]

Thanks Dahman

The dried flowers sound good. I've a feeling they are available on-line. A friend mentioned them a while ago but we've lost touch.

Do you think they help you sleep?

[TheDoDahMan in reply to smilingjane]

What is allowed to be sold online can only contain a minute amount of delta-9 THC - something like 0.3% - whereas the pot sold in U.S. states that have legal THC contains up to 20% or more.

Delta-8 THC, CBM, and CBD can be ordered online in some jurisdictions and many people say that they help with sleep. These ingredients are usually contained in gummies, oils, capsules, candies, et cetera, and do not get you "high".

Some experienced users on this forum, including myself, are of the opinion that cannabis which contains significant amounts of delta 9 THC is more helpful for sleep than those that do not. But please feel free to experiment with the "non-high" ingredients which, as I've mentioned, do help many.

"Dried flowers" is normally meant to indicate cannabis that is rolled into "joints", put into pipes or "bongs" (water pipes), or into heated chambers (vaporizers or "vapes"). Dried flowers would normally contain significant amounts of delta-9 THC.

The following paragraph is from Google:

"Although widely available in other parts of the world, sales of delta-8 is not legal in the UK. This cannabinoid may appear in trace amounts in many CBD oil products, but it is not available in high concentrations, or as a standalone product, therefore you cannot buy delta-8 in the UK."

Also from Google:

"Yes, Medical Cannabis is legal in the UK. Since the law was passed in 2018, Medical Cannabis is allowed for the treatment of chronic pain conditions when an individual has exceptional clinical needs and at least two other treatments have not worked." Obviously, one would need a prescription for medical cannabis, and we both feel it possibly could jeopardize an opioid permission.

In summary, my feeling is that cannabis is often helpful for sleep, but not so much as to overcome being awakened by RLS symptoms in refractory cases, such as ours. I think we should be extremely happy that we have secured low-dose opioid prescriptions and do nothing to jeopardize that. But ordering online "non-high" cannabis derivatives to see whether they might help is a viable legal option.

[Purpleyam in reply to smilingjane]

I'll jump in and comment- yes THC/CBD/CBN oil is wonderful for helping me get to sleep. It's a perfect combo available over the counter here in Canada and likely elsewhere.

Cannabis oil

[smilingjane in reply to Purpleyam]

Thank you Purpleyam, more helpfull insight.Nightmare formular looks interesting

I have been watching too much True Detective, wow that messes with your head, well mine anyway.

[teakabeagle in reply to smilingjane]

Most doctors don’t want you to take other opioids, benzo’s, THC or alcohol with the Buprenorphine because of adding more respiratory depression on top of the Bup. Bup causes less respiratory depression than full opioids, but it does cause some.

[smilingjane in reply to teakabeagle]

Thanks teakabeagle, I've decided to cancel my appointment for the Cannabis oil.Don't want to risk loosing my Bup' script. Took me long enough to obtain it!!!

[teakabeagle in reply to smilingjane]

Agreed. Did they have you sign a contract when they dispensed it. I had to, but it wasn’t a big deal to me as I don’t drink, do THC, Kratom or benzo’s! However the Bup makes me sleepy, not wired.

[Qalba in reply to smilingjane]

My sleep gummies have 12.5 MG of Delta 8, 12.5 CBM, 25 MG CBD. I order online with no prescription. They are legL in my state. My physician is OK that I take this and methadone. Methadone manages RLS. Insomnia is a separate issue that is managed with Sleep gummies. I prefer them to prescription mess because I have no foggy head or side effects. Then of course CPAP for sleep apnea. It seems that many of us have multiple sleep disorders. More research is definitely needed.

[smilingjane in reply to Qalba]

Thanks for the precise breakdown Qalba. Do you take just one at bedtime? and would you mind p. messaging me with the site you use?

Thanks again

[Ticki]

i’ve tried them both together. I take that medication too and it did nothing at all so I stick with the medication that works.💜

[smilingjane in reply to Ticki]

Thanks Ticki. I am partucularly interested in finding something to help my sleep. Buprenorphine, (althought so pleased I have it), does mess with my already sparodic sleep pattern.

[Ticki]

after the hideous, restless legs, insomnia is the next evil. I know the only thing that has helped me these last few months I once again tried trazodone, which I swore never ever helped before, but it really seems to be doing the trick after I take my 100 mg tablet in under 40 minutes my head is nodding and I go straight to bed. It’s not straight sleep throughout the night but usually at least four hours or so before I have to get up to do the usual PP routine, but nothing else has made any difference so far besides adding the trazodone. Good luck to you we all need it.

[smilingjane in reply to Ticki]

Thanks for that Ticki. I did try Trazadone a while ago, can't remember now why I stopped it.

I'l have a think and put it on my maybe list.

I am glad it's working for you