I suffered for many years with very bad RLS. After seeing a demonstration of different magnetic products at a county fair the person told me of a mattress pad with many small magnets inside it. I hadn't slept more than 2 or 3 hours a night for 3 months so the manufacturer let me try it for my RLS for 2 weeks. My RLS completely stopped the first night i tried it and never bothered me for the entire 2 weeks! Needless to say, I purchased the mattress immediately and have been RLS free for 25 years! If anyone is interested the company is NIKKEN at nikkei.com and under sleep products see Kenko Naturest Mattress Topper. They are expensive, $720us for twin size but it was a miracle result for me. Probably would not be alive today if I didn't have it. Hope this helps someone. UPDATE 9/7/17. COBBLERS174 JUST INFORMED ME OF A WEBSITE, PROMAGNET.COM, THAT HAS A MAGNETIC MATTRESS OF THE SAME QUALITY AS MINE FROM NIKKEN.COM, THAT IS MUCH MORE AFFORDABLE AND ALSO HAS A 45 DAY RETURN POLICY!! THIS IS GREAT NEWS FOR ANYONE WISHING TO TRY IT OUT, $317 US VERSUS $700 THAT NIKKEN CHARGES WHICH IS NOT REFUNDABLE.
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Glad it's helped you but at 720 dollars- very expensive & not available to all of us here in UK.
Maybe it aligns the iron in ones body in a more efficient manner, thus achieving dopamine equanimity.
Just my thought!
Would one have to sleep in a particular orientation? ie N/S or E/W.
Don't know what you mean by orientation or what is N/S and E/W? Let me know, ok?
The Earth is influenced by cosmic solar rays which create magnetic fields. That's how compasses work.
Our bodies have a certain amount of iron in their makeup- this is affected by the magnetic field. That's how some birds navigate.
My question alluded to this situation.
Should we sleep with our bodies in a North / South direction- in line with the magnetic field.
Or East/West , across the field.?
Of course- the answer may well depend on the polarity of the magnets within your" mattress".
It might also depend on how much of ones iron is stored as Haemoglobin or as Ferritin. And whether your Hebcidin is switched on or off.
Questions, questions! - I get so tired of life and it's answers.😎
Means up and down or sideways across the bed.
Expensive, definitely, but with 25 years of blissful sleep, well worth the expense! Are you sure you can't get one? Shipping cost would probably be prohibitive I imagine.
In my original post I misspelled, it should be nikken.com not not nikkei.com
With the cost of medications for RLS not covered by insurance if this pad gave relief one would have saved the outgoing expense presumably.Is the comforter equipped with magnetic ne does as well?A thought are cardiac patients allowed to use this?
There are UK distributors and the price is £1165 so very, very expensive especially with no guarantee it will make any difference. As I've learned from this site, what works for one person may not work for another. You were lucky to try it first. I'd happily try it out if the UK distributor had a similar return policy.
Thanks for sharing the info.
Are you positive they don't have a return policy, if so, that's terrible. I returned the one I tried after 2 weeks because it was so expensive but RLS returned with a vengeance and I realized cost was immaterial when it came to total relief of RLS. I would pay any price to relieve the torture of RLS.
There is a 14 day "Right of Withdrawal", not much time to try it out but it worked for me the first night with 25 years of no RLS.
Checked the UK terms of sale and you can return within 14 days only if goods still in original packaging and in a resellable condition. Sadly that means I couldn't sleep on it.
If I win the lottery, I'll buy one and treat all my pals on this site to one too. Fingers crossed.🤞
Check with the distributor and ask them if you try it and it doesn't work, does that mean it's not in resealable condition? Save original packaging. Can't hurt to ask.
Good point re cost. I'm going to look into it and if they will let me try it before buying I will. Also, good thought re cardiac patients. I have a fib and plan to bring this up with my cardiologist in 2 weeks. It is expensive and I doubt that medicare plus my supplemental insurance will pay. Unfortunately-like many helpful things- many people are not able to get needed care due to insurance limitations. But this starts with doctors. When doctors start taking a disease seriously, insurance companies eventually follow. Maybe this is a way to make changes for us down the road. By the way, I don't consider Wikipedia a top of the line source for medical research. Just sayin'. PS- could they possible offer payment plans?
About Wikipedia. You''re right, you can find anything on the internet to either support or debunk anything, so you have to have an open mind. As for the payment plan, I don't know but it would be great if they did.
burmag, just found out ProMagnet.com has twin size magnetic mattress pad for $317US and they have a 45 day return policy. Check it out.
Hi Yorge 1950, Thanks, I will. BTW I believe in the copper bracelets for arthritis. This may well have undiscovered merit also. Take care, burmag
Do you think the cheaper products such as comforter would work?
Honestly have no idea, but there is 14 day "Right of Withdrawal" on website but don't know if it applies if you purchase thru independent distributor.
I seem to remember many years ago that one's bed should be aligned North/ South. Mine is East/ West but there is no room to move it. It's something that might be worth looking into without spending a fortune on a magnetic mattress.
I am going to the rls uk AGM in London on 2nd September. Might I meet some of you there?
I tried that. It didn't help me. Gave mattress to my inlawa. So happy for you.
Sorry it didn't work for you. Different people get different results with any type of medication or other solution to a problem.
No proven results en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magne...
After many years of suffering from major bouts of RLS, I would consider my 25 years of being totally free of RLS pretty good proven results of magnetic therapy so don't disregard it so easily. If you have a closed mind you will never succeed in life.
I agree. More often than not when it comes to health care (which is big business globally) new , alternative, "out of the box' solutions for medical problems are sorely lacking in support from mainstream sources. My cynical side tells me this is more often than not information that is suppressed because it might affect big corps and pharma's bottom line. I have benefitted over the years from some excellent, necessary mainstream medical care but I have also availed myself to successful alternative solutions. At times it's been a battle to do things my way. Many of the tips I've read since joining this website have worked. They may not be the answer for everyone but neither are standard medical treatments the answer for all. Everyone must find what works for them. It serves no one to take away hope from another because the documentation isn't there. We all know how statistics and research can support the evidence we want. I've been a nurse-now retired- for almost 40 years and have seen many good outcomes that have no strong scientific explanations. If I thought standing on my head while eating cotton candy would relieve my rls I would give it a try.Thanks for listening to my 'soapbox lecture' this morning.
Yes, an open mind is a healthy mind! A closed mind is a death-trap!
Here in UK we get medical care free ( but we pay much higher taxes than in USA) but devices and mattresses are definitely not covered.
I have lived under both systems and each have pros and cons The Swedish system has put their government under financial stress there does not seem to be an ideal solution.
Yorgi1950I am wondering have you had any side effects from the mattress?I was reading up on it and a goodly number of users reported they had experienced some to do with the wave lengths I was not too sure what the technical side of it was .
No Retren, I have never had any side effects that I can think of. Once I found out that it totally cured my RLS, I never bothered to research it any further. There's an old saying that what's good for the goose is good for the gander - a totally false statement. No one thing works the same for everyone, unfortunately. There are many studies on magnetic therapies, some pro and some con. I'm in the pro category of course.
Yep but I think most people here in U.K are more than happy to pay higher taxes so that free health care is available to all, regardless of wealth.
Having said that, with the obesity crisis the free healthcare is about to be stretched to breaking point with type 2 diabetes responsible for over 10% of the entire budget.
I suspect NHS will have to start imposing conditions before free care is given eg lose weight & exercise. We will have some serious issues to consider in the next 10 years.
Yes Joolsg, there are pros and cons to almost everything. Some people over-eat, others have genetic problems that they can't control. And smokers, drug users and drinkers are a real drain on the health care system also. I am lucky that none are problem for me although I do enjoy a little Jack Daniels now and then. lol
I'm envious. I used to work for the largest drinks distributor in the world ( Diageo) & we made every top single malt there is ( Lagavulin and Laphroig were my favourites) but now I can't drink any alcohol at all- my RLS would keep me awake all night!
Enjoy the Jack Daniels.
Had to jump into this subject. I don't drink anymore either always liked scotch. My sister was married to a Scotsman for a time in the nineties. He was from colonsay and they lived in cumbria.when I visited I fell in love with lagavulin and the whole area. If Medicare would cover me outside the US I would move there in a minute.
I never could get used to the taste of scotch but had good buddy on my ship that loved it.
Seriously? Move there in a minute, huh? Ok, i'll research Norway's policy right now!
Sorry to hear you can't have a drink now and then. I only have 1 or 2 "Black Jack Cola" or a small JD on the rocks per month. When I was in the US Navy my nick name was "The Jack Daniels Kid" lol.
Sounds divine.
I had response from the Nikken distributor. Trial of the mattress is not possible but they have offered to sell me some magnetised nikken insoles for £16.99 as they feel that's a good way to see if magnets have any effect.
I think I'll try them so thanks for the info about Nikken. It seems to be a whole way of life- they recommend a vegan alkali diet and filtered water. Very holistic.
As I'm drinking my filtered water , I'll visual it's Jack D & coke on the rocks!
LOL You have a great sense of humor! I'll drink one in your honor, ok? Glad to hear Nikken distributor came up with excellent suggestion for you to try. Don't know that I could take the vegan diet though. I love my chicken parmesan, filet mignon and baked cod, although I do love a good chef's salad (but that has ham and turkey in it, so I guess it's not vegan) Let me know how the insoles work out, ok?
Hopefully you'll be helped with the diet suggestions. I believe food plays a much bigger part in our health than it's given credit for. BTW, checked with my Cardiologist and can't try anything magnetic because I have a pacemaker. Some of the newer pacemakers are less sensitive to magnetic influences but mine isn't. I'm very careful; even got rid of my microwave. (OK with me-who need nuked food anyway. LOL)
I follow a ridiculously healthy diet. Mainly organic plant based. Gluten/sugar/salt/ free. No caffeine or alcohol. The only extra suggestion they could make was to filter my water as well.
I agree that diet has a large part to play.
I've never had a microwave so don't know whether you're missing anything by not being able to use one.
Hopefully, your food will taste better cooked in an old fashioned oven.
I don't miss a microwave. I agree,cooking food slower is more healthy. I call microwaved food 'nuked' food. You'renot missing anything and they can be a "B" to clean, especially if something like tomato sauce splatters around. Food never tasted any better-just cooked faster.
LOL I can have a drink every now and then but I don't because of meds ( cheat once in a while with a glass of red wine). Have a t shirt that says, "All you need is love but a little red wine never hurts." Gotta have a sense of humor in this life.
Can I just butt in here?
That's it -- just wanted to butt in.
(Sorry --feeling giddy)
LOL. Always feels good to start off the day with a good belly laugh. Thanks Jess3648!!
Anytime 😆
Here's another one:
I ask: "did you hear the one about....?"
Then you ask: "did I hear the one about what?"
I say: "how am I supposed to know? You're the one who heard it!"
Good one Jess! I'm getting ready to watch the eclipse on Nasa.gov. I'm in Colorado so it won't be quite total here, would have to go to Wyoming for total. Are you in US or UK and will you be able to see it?
I'm in Norway, so I'm not sure if I'll be able to see it or not. I'll check that out right now!
Xx Jess
Feeling silly and giddy is good at times. I do. My family had always called me the giraffe. Head in the clouds much of the time. Feels good up there at times. Humor is very therapeutic. Keep it up!
Yes, it sure is. Without comic relief we'd all go insane (especially with this awful syndrome!)
It's really nice to share with other people on this blog. I don't talk about all this with people I know. My friend (with benefits!) wants to be sympathetic but he worries and then I feel anxious and regret mentioning it. I moved in December to a very nice senior living highrise. There are many people here with some severe health problems although almost everyone has something going on. There is sort of an unspoken rule we stick to and that is not to talk too much about our physical health. Probably a good rule, otherwise there would be no time to discuss anything else. People are kind and show an interest if someone is taken to hospital etc. but after a polite inquiry the subject is closed. So you guys are a life saver.
Thanks for the update. Which product is most suitable? promagnet.com/collections/b...
Can you explain the logic of magnets being connected to RLS?
I'm glad this has worked for you.
Thanks, Orly
Hi Orly, I didn't know that promagnet had several different thicknesses of mattress. When I looked at their site all I saw was one mattress, so I think they updated their site. My Nikken mattress is about 2" thick but I imagine the thinner ones would work just as well. Their prices are certainly much more reasonable than Nikken. To anyone who is interested, promagnet.com has a sale right now. These prices (US$) are for twin size mattress: 1" (230 magnets) $147.00 - 2" (263 magnets) $212.00 and 2&1/2" (263 magnets) $317.00. I have no idea how many magnets my twin nikken has but 263 seems like it would be adequate. As to the logic of magnets being connected to RLS? I haven't got a clue, but as the poem " Charge of the Light Brigade" says, "Mine is not to reason why, mine is but to do or die". My RLS was so severe, I was only getting maybe 3 hours sleep (for 3 months straight) when I tried the mattress. It stopped my RLS the very first night, but I returned it to the distributor because of the cost. Dumb move!! RLS returned with a vengance, so I bought the mattress. Smart move! RLS hasn't returned in over 26 years!! Hope this info helps you Orly, and anyone else that wants to try it.
Thank you Yorgi for the detailed reply. When you had RLS did it just effect your your ability to get good sleep? Didn't you have any symptoms while awake/resting like having to constantly move your legs (not being able to sit still)? Or maybe you did have that and the mattress solved that too? Thank you!
Yes, I should have mentioned that my arms and legs would sometimes be restless when sitting. It is now extremely rare, maybe 3 times a year, that I have a problem while I am awake. Haven't had one instance of RLS while sleeping in all the 26 years since I got the mattress. I would say my RLS was extremely severe, not sleeping more than 3 hours every night for months at a time. Really hope that others can experience what I have.
So what u r saying is that it has a lingering effect. Can u feel the magnets when laying on them?
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