The value of yogurt for pred

[Viveka]

I've been away for the last two weekends, so rather than bother with yogurt I had my pred (2.5mg) with a pot of Bircher muesli.

The first time, about an hour later I had a nasty taste in my mouth and acid reflux. It was the pred dissolving, but I thought perhaps it was 'one of those things'.

Anyway, exactly the same thing happened twice this weekend which made me want to share the value of taking the pred inside spoons of yogurt as advised many times on the forum.

So, if you're not doing it already, take a few spoons of yogurt, then dunk each pill in a spoonfull, then finish off with a bit more yogurt. I usually do this half way through the rest of my breakfast.

I'm not sure why this would make such a difference, but it does for me...

Also want to share that Pret Bircher is infinitely superior to M&S, which has replaced its pomegranate seeds with sultanas and is dry and nasty. (They have also moved to Debenhams in Liverpool and have only ONE toilet, replacing the suite of loos Debenhams had. They advise people to go to the pay toilet in Liverpool One. Given that their customer base is middle aged women, shame on them!

[PMRpro Ambassador]

It'll catch up with them!!!!!

Yoghurt does have a reputation for benefit to the GI system! Mind you - I'm of the opinion that Bircher is pretty indigestible!!!!

[Kendrew in reply to PMRpro]

I always have porridge with fresh berries followed by chopped up orange with seeds and live natural yogurt and THEN...I take my p.red. Never had any problems

[Stills]

Perhaps they will start selling some sort of containment knickers. 😉 agree that it’s shameful, I can’t go more than 90 minutes and it takes that long to find the right bra to fit in that shop!

[PMRpro Ambassador in reply to Stills]

Not sure where you are - but I would recommend an expedition to the NE and seeking out one of the former Sadie the Bra Lady shops in Consett, Darlington and Sunderland (I think), now known as Bra Lady since Sadie retired. The fastest I have left with the perfect fit was 10mins - for my daughter, not me! But I rarely spend more than half an hour there before leaving with at least 3 bras that fit perfectly. And I am difficult to fit - most shops fail spectacularly.

[Stills in reply to PMRpro]

Cambridgeshire. I’m not an unusual size at UK 32E but I have, what is generally agreed to be, swollen cartilage from Stills, protruding into the bust area where bra lies. Personally I suspect serositis but you may recall I don’t have a rheumy or Dr with a clue so who knows. Years of torment by boned bras have been endured; I’m nearly 62, when can I switch to thermal vests and comfy boobs 🤣

[PMRpro Ambassador in reply to Stills]

Not that common - I'm a 32F and that is the difficulty, a bra that is small across the back. Other shops try to put me in a 34 - I lift my arms and fall out the bottom!!! It has improved in recent years but I still stick to Sadie's heritage.

[Whippetygirl in reply to Stills]

I know how you feel, I stopped wearing a bra four years ago and never looked back. I have bought three thermal vests, they are very comfortable and warm, if my boobs are happy resting on my tummy so am I. When you get to 79 it is all about comfort and warmth. Go for it.

[Stills in reply to Whippetygirl]

Good for you 😀

[Thelmarina in reply to Whippetygirl]

Nothing nicer than a boppety boop 😂. Love it.

[piglette]

I take mine with a hard cheese, usually comte. As far as muesli is concerned, Dorset foods stopped doing the one I liked, so I have been looking for a new one. Dorset foods do have quite a good one, but my favourite so far is Waitrose own. I have been thinking of starting to make my own but then I thought I was really prepared to have partial finished packets of wheat, barley, oats, dried fruit etc etc. lying around and decided it was easier to get someone to do it for me!

[Blearyeyed in reply to piglette]

Which one did you prefer before? I can't remember the name of the one I liked most which they stopped.

We get the Dorset Foods Simply Fruity with papaya and pineapple now ( as my husband is anti black berries and cherries), I then add hazelnuts and almonds to it with buckwheat flakes to make a giant 2/3 litre pot that the whole family are happy to eat.

I did used to make muesli entirely from scratch but that was when I used the other ingredients more in baking , but my husband never really warmed to eating muesli until I tried this variety of doing it.

We get ours delivered in bulk packs from Amazon now it's a lot cheaper than buying it from the supermarket. They have various varieties available that aren't always available in the supermarket at a reasonable price.

My yoghurt and berries is always what I call my first breakfast with my medications and B12.

Then I have my second breakfast of oats or muesli , or eggs and salmon later on when I feel more up to eating. I usually have most of my other vitamins after that with a little vitamin C juice .

[Whippetygirl in reply to Blearyeyed]

That would be my entire meals for the day. Lol

[Blearyeyed in reply to Whippetygirl]

I know , it sounds a lot , but my portions are small. I need to eat five small meals a day instead of three big ones to reduce my other digestive problems and get more nutrients from my food.I do sound like a Hobbit though with my first and second breakfasts!😆😆😆

[piglette in reply to Blearyeyed]

I think the Waitrose wins by a whisker against the Dorset Foods. I can’t remember the name of the original one I liked, but it was better in my opinion. I must have been through a dozen or so trials though. There was one at Sainsbury that was really nice and got discontinued as well. My problem is lack of space to store things in bulk.

I have just gone back and checked the prices. The Waitrose one is nearly half the price of the Dorset Foods, so it now wins by two whiskers!

[Blearyeyed in reply to piglette]

Oh , I will take a look . I will test it out , but without letting my hubby know I've made a swap.I might have to stick with what we are using ( or hide the Waitrose stuff in Dorset Foods boxes 😆😆😆) as it's taken me more than 12 years of persuasion and tweaks to finally get him to be happy to eat muesli at all everyday. He is as picky as a four year old , and he'd admit it too.

You should see the amount of additions and fuss that goes into getting him to eat yoghurt!!!

It really annoys me when they constantly swap really good products in the supermarket just when you've added it to your regular diet. Especially as the options they bring in are only done to save money or are full of added ingredients that aren't good for you or are just trendy for five minutes.

[piglette in reply to Blearyeyed]

It is amazing the number of people who just stick to their one brand and never try anything else. Often supermarkets’ own are actually well known brands relabelled for the supermarket.

[Blearyeyed in reply to piglette]

In the case of my hubby he's just picky , we've tried so many variations of both homemade and shop bought over the years, trying to get him away from sugary cereals over the years has been a nightmare( despite him being Type 1 Diabetic ) although he would eat porridge , now I'm not always up at the time he is he needs an alternative. It does surprise me how people stick to brands like glue. Most of the named products usually have more sugar , salt or fats in than basic brands .... So maybe they are just used to how that affects the taste.

[piglette in reply to Blearyeyed]

I read a book called Sugar, Salt and Fat. They were talking about the food companies getting the ‘sweet point’ with their products so they maximise the taste and also to try and make food so you want to eat more of it. Sort of getting people to be addicted to their food. It was fascinating. I never buy things that say ‘low ***’ as it usually means high something else.

[Blearyeyed in reply to piglette]

It's absolutely right. For example , they have a habit of adding fats to low sugar products and increasing sugar and artificial sweeteners to low fat products to make them more palatable for Western tastes , but basically making them worse for your sugar balance and weight maintenance than the stuff your were substituting these alleged " healthy options" for.

In my view most artificial sweeteners are like the fruits of the devil. Particularly for people with diabetes or insulin resistance problems. They play merry hell with digestive problems like IBS too.

[piglette in reply to Blearyeyed]

The real thing is there is no nutritional value. I am reading a book at the moment where they were saying that they had been testing children with things like ADHD and they were finding that some of their vitamins levels etc were very depleted. I suppose living on pizza, burgers and coco-pops probably does not help. Anyway improving their diet with pills made an enormous amount of difference.

[SheffieldJane]

Thank you for this. I have found Miss Mary of Sweden Bras to be pretty good. Any constriction leads to pain. I think it is a problem for ladies with PMR pain.

[Thelmarina in reply to SheffieldJane]

Miss Mary of Sweden Bras sounds like a pseudonym for another service entirely 😂

[Bcol]

Can't help or comment on the Bra problems, but I take my Pred with Activia yogurt and usually a banana early morning 02:00-03:00 so a long time before breakfast which is usually Weetabix fruit and Nut Crispy Minis or Porridge, both with Blueberries.

[calibriel]

I like an oat based meusli - quite hard to find in supermarkets. I used to buy one from my local wholefood co-operative, but it’s a bit of a walk at the mo with my arthritic hip, so I’m buying from Holland & Barrett. Expensive, but I don’t need much cos I’m trying to minimise carbs.

[paintpots]

I take my pred with my cholesterol yogurt drink about half hour before breakfast and in 3 years have never had a problem.

[S4ndy]

I am a 46G and rely on The Big Bloomers Company in Cornwall for my soft, supportive, non wired, non hurting shoulders, breathable, pull on, big cupped bras. So comfy! Never found a comfy bra in M&S!

[PMRpro Ambassador in reply to S4ndy]

I was about to bemoan the lack of such bras for small back sizes - but they do one!!!!!

[S4ndy in reply to PMRpro]

Yep, they are a good company. Bit more expensive but I don't mind that for comfort. I got a set of bra and knickers last time and their pop sock trial pack too. Been pleased with it all. Usually very quick delivery too but I don't know about to Italy 😀

[PMRpro Ambassador in reply to S4ndy]

It'll take forever if it is post! I got letters from the bank on Friday that were sent out in mid-August ...

[Blearyeyed in reply to S4ndy]

Thanks for the tip . I mainly wear soft feel , front fastening sports bras , as a bigger girl, but I will take a look because it would be nice to find something that looks a bit more pretty without the demon underwiring!!!

[humlies]

Yes, I think yoghurt is wonderful. I used to have low fat yoghurt until I discovered that it is no better for you (and in some cases worse) than full fat. I now enjoy this with grape nuts (low in sugar) sprinkled on top, and this makes taking pred almost enjoyable!

[Karenjaninaz]

I always put my pred dose in a gelatin capsule; I prepare my doses for the week in a week dose packet.

I use a vanilla soy milk shake with egg white (powdered), a little cocoa power. I have an insulated cup near by my 2am dose. I chill that in the evening then leave it ready.

I tended to have reflux in the past but not with this.

[Mojo63]

I do Plain Oats, KEWI fruit half sliced, grated fresh Ginger, both good for inflammation, or you can use Few black grapes, Raspberries, nuts, etc.

Put all this in a plastic beaker, then two spoon’s full of Tescos plain Greek Yogurt, lid on. Prepare the night before put in fridge, just add a bit of milk in the morning really good to take meds with, tasty and none fattening.

[Viveka in reply to Mojo63]

That's a mojo bircher, I think. I must try and make my own. But I'll keep the spooned yogurt.

[Koalajane]

I take my pred with a slice of sourdough toast and peanut butter, it hasn’t caused a problem for the last 6 years