web of autoimmune conditions

I often feel all the illnesses we suffer are connected like the threads of this frozen web.

[Seacat30]

Are the spiders symptoms? 🕷️🕸️

[winfong in reply to Seacat30]

There definitely are connections.

I would imagine we are the poor flies and moths and things that get caught. Not sure who that would make the spider.

Maybe a malevolent universe. Or perhaps just the vagaries of a super complex system that does wonders in protecting our bodies the other 99% of the time.

[Hidden in reply to Seacat30]

phlebotomists perhaps

[Seacat30 in reply to Hidden]

🧛‍♂️🧛 blood suckers!

[PMRpro Ambassador]

I'm sure they are - and the label we get just depends on what it best resembles!

[KASHMIRI1]

What a glorious picture

[Hiibilly]

I was given the analogue when I first joined this group that it is a bit like walking into an auto immune shop, you go in and pick up one or two items and the assistant says to you on the way out if you are having those how about these symptoms they are often bought together. Not at all fare. The spiders Web is beautiful 🕷️ but made by a deadly preditor. The Celts believed the the threads of our lives were part of a cosmic spiders web perhaps they were on to something.

[phebamom]

does anyone remember the movie: "War of the Worlds", the remake with Tom Cruise? In the end the aliens die of a simple cold virus. Many thought that was silly. Critics panned the end of that movie as unrealistic. I thought it was amazing. Albert Einstein said humanity would go out with a whimper or a bang, meaning from viral and bacterial infections or atomic destruction. I am opting for the whimper. I recently had a CT scan of my sinuses. The tech who did the test told me that a study was done linking people with auto-immune disease to people who had the 1918 influenza and survived it.

There are too many chemicals, over 90 thousand new chemicals since WWII. there are too many people in very close contact with animals, especially in China. Who knows what viruses are crossing and being misplaced. The Pangolin is a great example. The Asian Pangolin, a very gentle creature, is nearly extinct from being mercilessly hunted for its scales. So, Pangolin are now imported to Asia from Africa. Who knows what different bacteria and viruses are in the African Pangolin that is not in the Asian animal. Animals from all over the world are crammed into live markets for sale. Who knows what viruses are a play. The Chinese rip the scales off and use them for medicine. We have a lot to atone for.

Everything is totally out of balance. The weather, nature, where people and animals and plants should live, they no longer live. We are being overrun in Mid America by a plant called cut-leaf teasel. the plant was imported in the 1700s to help set the nap during the production of wool. Unintended consequences.

Every 2nd person I know has an auto-immune disease. Genetics, environment, stress. I think it a mixed bag of all of the above.

allpoetry.com/the-hollow-men

This is the way the world ends

This is the way the world ends

This is the way the world ends

Not with a bang, but with a whimper.

Yes, I am in a very sad mood. BNp showing heart failure, untreated sleep apnea, adenoid infection, Off Actemra to try two different antibiotics for adenoid. Both triggered vertigo. Untreatable high blood pressure. Doctors just keep passing me back and forth. Guess I will know more after results of echocardiogram and brain MRI. The thought is I am having mini-strokes. My primary ordered tests after returning from sick leave for 3 months. Referral to a heart specialist will take a couple of months. I am in the US, and it seems our health care system is falling apart, and totally in control of insurance companies. Once I went on Actemra no doctor wants to have anything to do with me.

[PMRpro Ambassador in reply to phebamom]

Anyone with a good history background should know the scenario isn't silly. The Europeans introduced what are banal infections for their children to the Americas and Australia - which wiped out whole cultures because they made the indigenous people so sick they died because they had absolutely no natural immunity.

[phebamom in reply to PMRpro]

Exactly!

[Hidden in reply to PMRpro]

I’ve always felt that humankind would die out as a result of our own excess. It’s depressing that we continue in the same vein even though we have foresight and preventative knowledge in many fields. I think I may as well spend my retirement savings on new dresses and perfume........

[tempusfugi in reply to Hidden]

Go for it, stillsdisease, especially the Season of Goodwill is approaching!!

[Hiibilly]

It sounds like you are having an awful time. I will be thinking about you and crossing everything for you . Last year I thought I wasn't going to survive this year so much better not perfect, that would take a miracle but far more positive. I hope you get some help and get some results.