Japanese scientists have used supercomputers to simulate various scenarios and come to new conclusions: the rate of infection is doubled if the air is dry compared to more humid air. That means humidifiers are useful if you can't air the room thoroughly in winter. They also showed that people wearing visors spread considerably more aerosols than people wearing material masks. Sitting at a table the person sitting next to you is more likely to infect you than the person sitting opposite you. Choirs should be limited in number and have larger distances between the members. Scientists say that the corona virus is mainly spread by the tiny droplets we expel when speaking, singing and sneezing. These so-called aerosols can float in the area for hours if the air is still and anyone who breathes them in can become infected.
Which all accounts for how weddings (for example) and bars pose a problem - even if the venue has done its best with anti-covid measures. The people forget ...
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Yes, I would have thought that. I think I’ve read somewhere that sitting opposite means since your breath is directed at the person in front of you, it is the most likely direction of transmission.
I see, interesting the way it spreads more easily sideways. Though I won't be in a restaurant for the foreseeable future, outs are all closing down tomorrow for 4 weeks (and maybe more)
Two villages locally have been locked down - weddings and another celebration have caused massive spikes relative to the population. One has over 100 cases in a total pop of 1800! The restaurants can stay open in the day though - so workers can have their hot meal at midday.
Do find Italy being crossed off the UK jolly holiday list a bit of a cheek - under 10,000 cases per day compared with 3x that in the UK!
That was the point of the comment I made about the graphic from early in the pandemic. It depends on the airflow: if you are in one place for any length of time and downwind of someone infected you are at risk
no 2 meters just reduces to a more manageable infection rate. the old 4o ft pole away outdoors and not standing downwind . Inside anywhere the air cond vent blows or else the further the better, but try not to sit under a vent blowing on you.(that's where visors with tight fitting at the top may help). Usually as COVID is a large virus it will precipitate to the floor if humidity is greater than about 80% .. but it's still on the floor and can be moved by walking.
I don't go into the hairdressers or supermarkets but just occasionally I feel like going into a flower or DIY shop - just to feel "normal" (if you can remember what that means).😊 I then wear a thin face mask and a visor.
Your's is a bit different to mine. I'm lucky (first time I've said that in my life) - my hair is very fine and not thick. A friend of mine cuts it - it's not perfect but it'll do. I'm not likely to be seen by many.
Can't you find a hairdresser to visit you? You could sit on the balcony, buy a visor and ask her to use it over her mask. Bit expensive if they visit you at home - but once in a while?
Anyway - who do we need to impress? I'd bye a bandana or soft head band and scrag my hair back - they're very pretty! You might brighten OH's day too!!😂
It's expensive enough going to her!! I imagine she uses both mask and visor and the salon only has her and her partner and their clients - not a crowded or small place. Your appointment is an hour and rarely overlap - it is just I hate the hairdresser anyway! And I wanted to grow it a bit - don't want it short for the winter now.
PMRpro. I use a hand mirror and scissors in the bathroom.
Well truth be known, it’s difficult to raise my arm sometimes when a flare is taking place ..hence I look like the wreck of the ‘Hesperus ...zigzag hair cut. 😂
Often the case. I had a graphic right at the start showing how Covid spread in a restaurant just because of the air flow in the room with almost everyone at one adjacent table catching it and noone at another at 90 degrees difference.
Yes it just goes to show, I suppose as usual, that good research with relevant graphics is very important, rather than by just relying on what seems to be sensible common sense.
Interesting but conflicting to what we sometimes read....especially the last one...I read recently that trials had been done about the virus being transmitted on doorknobs etc, it said not to worry about it, it disappears in minutes....then few days later it said it was several hours before it goes....so this is why people are fed up with "mixed messages" from the so-called experts.....
The dispute is mainly about dose and what it is they measured. They can detect it is virus - but is it viable or just fragments and if it is viable how much. The more live virus is floating around you the more serious any infection is likely to be - and why medical staff tend to get pretty sick. It is all a steep learning curve - and that why it is up to each person to assume everyone else is infected and has disgusting habits ...
Thanks PMR Pro very interesting article. So much to learn. Sorry to hear of OH extra medical problems and the extra burden on yourself caring for him. So good of you to take the time to help the rest of us.. Take care and stay safe.
Really interesting to read about the visor issue....and ties in with new guidelines issued to Essex schools.......that they have little if no significant effect in protecting you or others unless you're wearing a mask also.....and then they possibly will provide some added protection for eyes and 'direct hits' from sneezes, coughs etc. I did actually figure out that a visor alone was probably not going to be particularly effective, when I went to book a hair appointment and saw one of the hairdressers give a little cough and the sunlight streaming in through the window behind her showed very clearly a mist of 'droplets' expelled from her mouth, hitting the visor and then floating down and out the bottom of the visor, to land on the customers head!! Needless to say....I'll wait a little longer to have my hair cut!!
This really makes us wonder.... I've always thought masks were better than visors for that reason. Also, when a visor has been worn for a while you can see the deposits building up on the inside.. Not nice. I work two days in a school and have seen this for myself on others visors, personally I prefer a mask even though I get too hot and my specs steam up!! 🤣
OMG! Such a simple idea! Why couldn't I think of that! Haha!....we sometimes overthink things to find a solution when in actual fact.....simple solutions are right in front of our noses!! 😂😂 Thanks again PMRPro.
There was a reply when we talked about masks early in the story of Covid - several hacks from the professionals. I'm fine with my mask pulled up towards the top of my nose when I have my sunglasses on - they have much deeper lenses than my everyday distance specs. Smearing a bit of soap over the lenses is also supposed to work.
Imagine how I look growing out the pixie I've been wearing in various permutations for the last 30+ years. I didn't even own a bobby pin, much less a headband.
Ordered some stuff on Amazon, but I have no idea what to do with it except to keep the hair out of my eyes.
Finally gave up and got a cut back in August when our infection rates here were minimal. The style is a bit less severe and exacting, making the growing out less awkward.
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