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Latest information - COVID19 - Government Publication March 21st Guidance on Shielding and Protecting those who are Vulnerable

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The advice is self-evident if you read the document. It also provides information about how to share a home with others under the circumstances and it is actually much the same as we have already discussed on another thread.

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Thank you

Thank you for all the info you’re sending through. Take care xx

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I was thinking the same.

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The rheumatology offical guidelines covers that - unfortunately, judging by one of the questions already today, they haven't been read by some of the rheumy nurses!

england.nhs.uk/coronavirus/...

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Thank you for this info. OH is having chemo for non Hodgkin's lymphoma so is certainly included in this list.

Will ring hospital next week as he is due infusion in a week and has to go on two days. He is ok and bloods good so must stay hopeful. Beautiful day here. Going to sit in garden for a big of vit D. Take care everyone. 🤗

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Rugger in reply to 5lupins

I shall go out into the Yorkshire sunshine and pull up a few of the weeds that have grown in the past 4 PMR years!

Take care and best wishes to you and your OH for his treatment.

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I believe anyone on chemo is on the list!

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That is good as there are people much worse than OH is at the moment. We have been very lucky.

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Two questions:

If you are shopping for someone who is "social distancing" because they are vulnerable, how do yo avoid risking infecting them? (The bag you leave on their doorstep, or the wrapping on the contents could be contaminated - as could any money or change).

How do you avoid spreading eh disease if delivering to someone who is infected? I think the main problem here would be money - but not everyone is set up with e.g. PayPal.

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Rose54 in reply to S11m

Some shops are stopping taking cash card payment only

Which leaves a lot of vulnerable people open to abuse I'm afraid .

Even with cards thier is still the risks of spreading it .

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They are encouraging card payments here in Italy - but that is a policy anyway (helps the tax man see what's going on!!) I don't have one so it's cash for me and they don't/won't say no.

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Rose54 in reply to PMRpro

I prefer cash

I dont feel if I'm spending money on a card and its easier to keep a eye on spending with cash if you only have a set sum to spend each week

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I move all the bill money to a different account then move it over. I suspect most stores will end up using just cards.

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Hi

I use my account for bills and big things

but as my Son pays house keeping to me I use that for weekly shopping

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It is good to split it isn't it. I would be worried all the time. The little veg shop near me was only on cards 10days ago. I had taken cash out for first time in ages and found they wanted cards 🤪

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There is a thread with detailed replies about that - I'm trying to find it.

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Q: As the virus lives on plastics etc for a while I'm wondering whats the best way to clean off the food packages that get delivered by other people to us if we are self isolating

A: They should be wearing protective gloves as they do it, you should be being careful as you unload it, binning the outside covering and washing your hands, washing your hands, washing your hands, not touching your face until the task is finished and you have washed your hands.

It should apply anyway when you think about it - you don't know who touched anything you fetched for yourself either!

Is just one response I've managed to find. I will try to get a specific thread about it going though.

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This link has some discussion.

healthunlocked.com/pmrgcauk....

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Thankyou!!!

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As well as the thread Poops gave the link for there is this from another discussion:

"We’ve been in self isolation since 1 February. I have other issues as well as PMR, & we self isolate every December, go away for January, self isolate for February, start to mingle in March. My doctor phoned on Monday to check we are OK, & to advise me of the gravity of my situation, bless him! We receive our groceries in our front driveaway, away from the house, in disposable rubber gloves. We have the wheelie bins handy! All veg have the outer plastic wrappers removed & thrown away immediately. Other things, eg Weetabix...we have storage tins & remove outside box & throw away. Tins and bottles are harder! Here are two methods...store those in an outside shed for a day, then bring in, or wipe each one down. Freezer goods we rush into freezer, hoping ice cold will kill any germs, but this virus is best killed by heat, not cold, I read! We are lucky, & have a motorhome with a large fridge, small freezer, so we can put fridge & freezer goods in there for 24 hrs, then transfer to the house? Caravan? Same applies. (We also leave our mail in the box on the gate for 8 hrs & then pick it up...recent studies seem to indicate it lives on cardboard for quite a long time!) we have a huge plastic box behind our front hedge that other deliveries go into. Then we wait to take them out, when hopefully the bugs have died. It’s not an exact science. Too many unknowns re how long this virus lives on different surfaces. Work is being done in labs worldwide. We may know more soon. I’m just trying to say ‘think around your situation’...& I guess our attitude is to receive everything we need at our house to keep us independent, but to wait until the virus has died before we touch the majority! One last item...we have signs on our front door now...’we are in self isolation...delivery?...please ring bell & stand away from this door...and one which says...there is no Coronavirus in this house...we are just ancient with other health issues.’ All for now...hope these tips may prompt ideas on how to handle incoming virus issues. We are not doctors. These thoughts are only my own, & are ideas, not recommendations. I am not qualified to make those! But my last three winters have been free from colds & ‘flu bugs not covered by the ‘flu jab. Stay safe & take care, good luck, S x x

(Courtesy of Pixix)

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I'm not sure that UV does - it does for some viruses but not all. If heat and UK helped you would imagine Australia might have less trouble

There is now a whole new thread set up by Bee!

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S11m in reply to PMRpro

Yes - UV, it seems, does not kill Covid-19/SARS cov2.

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