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The Lighter Side: Let's Hear it For HU Member 'Blearyeyed' (Bee)? ;-)

Greetings All, whoever and wherever you are in the world.

Unusually for me, this is a slightly more serious follow-up to, and endorsement of Bee's very thoughtful and thought-provoking Post about How, and what we communicate about on this respected health forum.

First: as I write, there have been more than 160 interactions in 24 hours (wow!) as a result of Bee's insights into, and practical suggestions about making this Forum more navigable for some. But.. only 15 'Likes' (even I get more with my inane, silly, usually Off-Topic ramblings). Mmmm, it only takes one click of a button...

Ok, it's only my opinion: but whichever side of this controversial fence you sit on, I think Posts like Bee's deserve more, and visible appreciation on the forum for at least having the courage to open-up and then remain objective in sensitively mediating in what is clearly a lively discussion!

'Likes' in response to a Member's Post (s) on a forum like this will generate more interest in that particular Post or Topic: and by my logic are an indicator of the relative Value / Popularity of and Respect for that Member's input to the Community as a whole (whether on or off Topic?). It's also personally rewarding for the Member who has taken the (a lot of?) time and effort to put words-on-the-page (screen) to know that they are resonating with an increasingly wide and diverse audience. Whether a Silent Lurker or an Active Responder, and whether in agreement or not, a 'Like' means a lot to the HU Member who put their head above the Online Parapet and actually made a statement.

As for the theme of Bee's Post:

Yep, it seems to have polarised many of Us Lot as to whether Posts / Content on this Forum should be dedicated more to strictly PMR / GCA medical related topics: or that the Forum should allow and indeed encourage the Social Side, i.e. off-Topic chat around all things from the price of Broccoli to our pets, grand-children, gardening exploits and so much more (better not mention Br*x*t)! Or, maybe, a sensible balance of both?

But (and a Big But..): how can anyone (even the Site Moderators) effectively manage the process of achieving Editorial Balance on a Social Forum that satisfies ALL Users? You tell me... ;-)

Many of You Lot know my opinion on the above, for better or worse. But that's not important right now: what IS important is that thoughtful contributors like Bee get adequate recognition for their input in the Forum's Popularity Ratings. And.. a few 'Likes' validates their input and encourages them to stay around and contribute more. To be honest, that's probably the main reason I'm still here - seriously.

So, whichever side of the fence you sit on (be careful of Splinters.. ha ha!), let's hear it for Bee: and please send your appreciation with a simple click of a button as well as (or at the same time as) responding? It can make a big difference.

Best wishes All, and try to keep smiling on the often difficult PMR / GCA Journey. Yep, it's good to let-off steam here (in whatever way and about whatever topic..). But Life is too short and precious to let differences of opinion about the style of content of an Internet Social Forum become burning, stressful issues. Ultimately, we can all choose whether to engage or not.

Ok: I've said my bit. That's it. Here: the red wine is open, Tedski's out on the Razzle (again), the Curry's in the oven and all's well with the world (or as well as it can be with PMR..). Oops, sorry, Off-Topic (as usual..?) ;-) :-D

'This, Too, Will Pass'

'Uncle' MB

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Often when I press like it turns to unlike, I can’t be the only one. It is not a reliable indicator. I am also guilty of forgetting, particularly if I answer. Just saying.

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Ha Jane - I know what you mean. And Yep: it's easy to reply before acknowledging a Post with a 'Like'? I'm guilty of it sometimes too (blame the Brain Fog...) :-D.

It's Bee who deserves the 'Likes' for her Post, not me for this follow-up. I'll forward any mis-directed ones onto her.. ;-)

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Seriously Uncle MB , Dude ,

You are going to make me cry.

I don't mind the lack of likes , I am happy to add a post and take a few punches for others if it helps , or say something happy and hopefully make someone's day a bit easier.

As you said yourself , ' Live and let live , I am that sort of girl.

And I am about to cry

( which if you could see it is hysterical as I can't make any tears these days so I have to squirt my eye drops in and start making a face like Mutley! Got the same laugh too!!)

Gosh , thanks and sorry for all the fuss folks , Bee xxx

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I freaking love you xxxx

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Jane,

This has come up before and it’s like a toggle button. If you’ve done it in error - you can unlike it!

I think you’ll find if you come out of that particular post it will add it to the number of likes.

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Or just toggle again and re-register your 'Like'... ;-)

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I had to re-toggle four times to register this like... but eventually...

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Oh does it? Doh! I have never once checked how many likes I’ve got. Just as well, neurotic enough methinks.

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Like. Like. Like like. Lol.

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Same here Jane. I press , it turns to unlike, then back to like with the same numbers of likes showing as before, so mine has not registered.

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Ohh, the 'Like Button' (or not) Plot thickens..?

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Same her Jane

But for me it goes to unlike them like a bit of a delay like everything in PMR

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Hey SJ, It turns to "Unlike," because that is your next option.... You've "Liked" it, but in case you change you mind or decide you don't like it, you could then click "Unlike." It does not mean you don't like the post... hope that helps.

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I think it is a blip, although I do have sausage fingers. It happens when I touch the button for the first time sometimes. Yesterday, I went back “ liking” posts and it didn’t happen. I felt like “ It’s a Wonderful Life” giving out angel wings, every time a bell rings. How is your poor eye today? Xx

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HA! You do not have sausage fingers! I admit it is a very sensitive "button."

Eye is the same, maybe a little better, thanks! I look like Satan's half-sister! xxxx

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I am satan’s other half sister then.

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Had the like problem for a long while...not now, press like, then hover over or press more....problem solved....hope it works for you..

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When you click " Like" and keep your arrow in the like box, it gives you the option to change your mind. If you move your arrow away from "Like" your "like" will be accepted, or should be. Trevor.

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Thanks ! It was a bit confusing to me though, along with many other things these days.

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Thank you Mark for saying this about Bee. She has handled this topic really well and has tried to appreciate every ones opinions and views without forcing her opinion on anyone.

I am of the opinion the forum should be left alone and the people who dont want to join in on non pmr posts, do what most of us do and just ignore. Its not hard, we are adults after all. If it seems that certain people need a warning about non pmr conversations then we will have to do something like you do about your funny posts and indicate we are possibly going off the topic of pmr.

Ok that's my opinion stated in public and my little rant is over. Thanks again Mark.YB

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Thanks too YB, I agree. Let's hope that Common Sense prevails all round and we don't get into a massive FFIIIGGGHHHTTTT!! over this recent issue!!! ;-) :-D

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We wouldn't have the energy to get into a small argument let alone a fffiigghht. We would all need a nap half way through.

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Too true! :-D

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Make socks not war 😂😂😂

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Sex?? Who brought up sex???

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That was PMRCanada with a great suggestion on my now notorious post!!

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Ohhh.. this is getting VERY silly now. Haven't You Lot got better things to do at this time of night?!!! :_D

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Unfortunately now is the time the lack of sleep and effects of pred begin to show.!!

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I can't knit socks. I can knit most things but 4 needles goes against all the rules of knitting!!

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It's the heels that defeat me - 4 needles isn't a problem...

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I end up throwing the things across the room out of frustration. I end up with everything twisted and mis-shaped. !!

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I just stole a like from you Yellowbell, not meant, you and Bee have managed this very well with warmth and humour. I came late to the party. It was lovely to see how organically this little haven moves towards the light.

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You might have been late but you still turned up. I sometimes set out but never get to where i was meant to be because I either forgot where i was going or I get side tracked.xx

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Hear ! Hear!!

Write a title

Read or ignore

Be happy that so many people get they help they need even if it's on potting geraniums!!

Live and let live

Love you all , really do and thanks for helping me so much , so far , Bee xx

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Yep, this is intended to be a Community - not a Competition... ;-)

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You help people as well you just don't realise it.

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He does , he is either acting as a human shield or has just shoved me out on stage with my skirt caught in my pants , but he has kept people from going mental with his unique brand of insanity for years and is an absolute legend in my book.

Even if , he has just made me turn into Betty Beetroot with the kind post above.

Overwhelmed!!

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You deserved the post. Hugsxxx

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She deserves a monument xxxx

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Oh Goodness I am terrified to think what that would look like!!

If there was a forum choice now it might have two parts .

An angel in Elton glasses wearing a dotty nightgown and playing the ukelele for the "likers".

And a devil with horns bent over with a soft spot on the bum for the " haters " so all the people I annoy get the chance to kick me without it setting there symptoms off.😂😂😂

In 24 hours I have managed to turn myself into Marmite !!!!!

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What...Me... Human Shield...? All I can say is: You deserve it. Skirt in Pants prob? A mere detail in the Big Scheme of Things.. ;-) :-D

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It wouldn't be the first time😋

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For me too - especially embarrassing when wearing the Superman outfit :-D

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We needed a male member in our PMR/ GCA Avengers League but got not takers.

Do you fancy the post ? Sounds like you are happy to wear you Y fronts outside your trousers , even without the Pred Head Effect😁😋

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I'm up for that - but on condition that my anonymity is preserved. I have a Reputation to live-up to (or is it down-to..?) :-D

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Awesome , Doomsville needs you to help the fight against all those white coated devils and PMR evil nemeses, we'll let you keep your dayglow barraclava on ( it will hide the black eye!) xx

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I think we have a Deal (unlike what's going on in the UK Political / Br*x*t news today..) :-D

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You really are pushing it , the ' B' word !!! you have no fear.

Respect ( bow , bow) and is that an anarchy tattoo I can see on your bum.

So , what's your superhero name then , for as much as your are a superman , that one might be taken.

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Try 'Tony French' - my professional, comic alter-ego and pseudonym. Yep, anarchic - and proud of it :-) To be continued... ;-)

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Bee, please spare us MB in y-fronts, not all of us are well enough to see that.

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NOT to be witnessed by children or people with a nervous disposition (i.e. a few of You Lot..) :-D

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Generally speaking , from my experience , kids love that sort of thing , it's the parents who have sensitive stomachs😁😋

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Too late😂😂😂😘

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Me too. Walked round Luton Armdale like it.

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It's when the toilet paper is still tucked in and you come out of the toilet looking a demented Andrex puppy.Ii

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My friend did that coming out of the Ladies in a nightclub.

Walking over to us all smiles , completely oblivious , us too , until we looked and spotted her snail trail slinking through the clubbers .

What was worse , it was shining in the UV light so really obvious to all as it sparkled right up to her knickers in bright neon blue😂😂😂😘

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Maybe all the brexit blabber just blew my mind and I failed to recognize people’s pain? I was enlightened and amused!

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You have no idea how you support so many of us. Despite having so many probs. You make ME cry. Xxxxxxx

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But we’re people really upset? I must have missed something 🤪

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You didn't miss anything trust me xxx

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No one was upset, no figth, no competition and no enemies, - just a little difference of opinions....

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Hear ! hear ! Stella a healthy exchange of views xx

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Yes exactly....

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Bee is beyond fabulous. I would support her always and I love what she wrote. Thank you dear Uncle xxxx

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Yes Mark l pressed like for your post and it turned to unlike as Sheffield Jane said also happened to her.l hastily kept pressing on unlike to hopefully return it to like which it has ! phew,l wondered If Tedski is responsible.l know he can be a bit of a handful .Bee always writes interesting posts,and l agree with Yellowbluebird that we have a choice as to whether we read a post or not.l love seeing the photos members post on here ,it makes it more interesting and friendly .

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I sometimes end up doing that as well. Other times the like button just doesn't want to work and I end up frantically hitting the hand symbol!!

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I had the same problem but someone told me that for some bizarre reason

, sometimes , when you press the ' like ' on a post it changes to 'unlike' but does register your like.

If you press it again to say like you oddly take the ' like' away again.

I tested it out by pressing , got ' unlike' , went off the post then back on and did see it had actually gone up by one .

I think it is just Health Unlockeds way of trying to give us some free much needed Brain Training to keep the Pred Head at bay!!😁

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Ha, Grants! I grilled Tedski about messing around with my PC and he flatly denied it. So, I grilled him in the oven along with some fresh Kippers - that'll teach him.

Oh, sorry, my humour gets worse and worse. Must be the effects of the Preds? ;-) :-D

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You grilled him!!! “ shriek”!!! Send him over here. It’s hotter than hell.

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Too late, he's well and truly, er, singed around the edges :-(

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“Fur” goodness sake! 🤣

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:-D

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We have discussed on here before, why different people press like. Some did it just to show they had read it. I am probably at the other extreme and only like if I agree strongly with what is being said, there will be others inbetween. Strangely I usually ' like ' replies rather than posts.

If the post is a question or someone asking advice it helps to 'like' what you consider to be good advice as this reinforces the reply.

A post like Bee's was putting a discussion out there and although I thought it was a good sugesstion it didn't occure to me to 'like' it I just wanted to see what others thought and started reading. I did 'like' a few replies.

I think that we should not put too much importance on the use of the 'like' unless there is some form of standardisation of it's use. We all use it in our own way and as many of us are not familier with the conventions of social media this will no doubt continue.

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I agree with you Scats x

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👍👍👍👍👍👍

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That shows I’ve read..and I liked it!!

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I wasn't really expecting likes and wasn't sure how interested people would become discussing it.

I thought in that case , people would like the post if they agreed that it needed talking about , and would , as did happen have equal likes for people with different views or opinions below.

I do agree with Uncle MB about liking something you enjoyed to read , wether you are going to reply or not , as a kindness and a courtesy.

And I agree with Scats , that you should like posts you like , and most importantly go back and like posts that you found really useful so they are easy to find and give help to others.

I just agree with everyone getting to use the forum in a way that works for them , but letting others do the same , live and let live , that's probably what got me in trouble in the first place xxx

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I think a better indication in this case was the number of people that got involved, you certainly pushed the right button there!

I find that on the forum, as in real life when discussion becomes too animated I tend to sit back and hear what others think. I have learnt the hard way that if not careful I can say things in the heat of the moment that I later regret!

I agree that the forum must work for everyone, we all find it so valuable in our own way. I wouldn't want anyone to feel uncomfortable and I'm sure noone else would.

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Good point scats... :-)

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Well said, I agree with your reply. Trevor.

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Well said MB! I am scurrying back to Bee's post, which I totally agreed with by the way. But I went totally off piste when writing on it blabbering on about movies!

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Typical..! :-D

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How did you get to know me do well?

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That would be telling... ;-) :-D

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Mate , that's a blooming good film , and I confess , I started .

Go and see The Favourite , will possibly be the best film of 2019 from a confessed Film Buff xx

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I totally agree Bee fantabulous!

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Sounds like a normal.response for me and Bee. We never get anywhere without getting lost on the way. Getting side tracked over films sounds reasonable.xx

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I think I liked it but just in case I'm liking it again!

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Cheers HeronNS. The thing I draw comfort from is that even though this PMR thingy makes us (most of us) grumpy, we all seem to do a lot of liking. Which is excellent??!!??

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Sometimes when I go to like a post, I find that if the word ‘like’ is in a box, when I click on it it changes to in unlike , !!

For instance your post has a ‘like’ in a box .

Any help on this fellow pred heads would be appreciated

Carole

Also how do I post a picture please?

Thank you

Ps trying to get a free computer lesson here 😻

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Only possible in a new post, i.e. the first starting a thread. Can't be done in replies. That's the extent of my knowledge but it is an essential basis to explore how...

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Hi 9lives- see Dorset lady’s reply above about the like button. When you press it to like a post then that’s it done, even if it says unlike. Pressing it again means you’ve taken the option to “un-like” it as DL says it’s a toggle button. It confused me for ages.

I think you can only put up photos when you start a new post. Once you’ve written it up then there should be an option to add a photo then as well as adding topics etc. I just choose/tick a photo I want on my camera roll and my phone does the rest! Just have a play with it😊

I’m sure someone more technically savvy will be along or you can request via help button? Atb x

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Thank you both for the info, I’ll play around a bit (with the buttons) !! I mean ha ha x

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A toggle button? I knew what was happening but not the name of the device. You see all these diversions can be quite fruitful adding to the sum total of our knowledge! ☺️

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Bee was saying this about us going off topic. Most times we learn something else about all sorts of things. It may not be pmr but it'still useful. Xx

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Only way I've figured out is to have the picture accessible on my computer. Then in the original post there's an option to add a photo, which one can do by finding and opening the picture's file. So as far as I know if you want to share something you've seen on the internet you first have to save it to your computer. But I would be very pleased to learn if there is an easier way.

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Yes , had to get my kids to explain that , wish I knew I could call on you for tech help first , I wouldn't have had to look like such a Luddite in front of them and get the , ' Ahh, poor Mummy' looks and pat's on the head again. 😂😂😂

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My knowledge is very sketchy, although I suppose years of working with a computer in a library does help me know where to start looking for solutions.

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Does that then put the picture up as it is? I just copy and paste the link from the toolbar when I want to put things from the internet. Don't have much on my computer...

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My daughter's taught me that I can share any photos from my own documents or camera with needing copy paste ( which for some reason , despite doing over and over I always have to remind myself how to do , even before meds!)

You can find any photo or link on the net , press the three dot sign on the page or photo , press to share to your drive or documents .

You can then just press the attach image bit and it will put up your list of camera , documents etc. Press the right one , and the links come up , press the link or photo it goes on your post.

You can then delete it straight away from your files if you want.

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Pardon... ;-)

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I save a picture to my desk top. Open HealthUnlocked and click the add photo option. That makes my computer stuff pop up, so I just go to the desktop and open the file I want, and presto, the picture is in my post! If this doesn't work it probably means the picture isn't saved in the right format, but most things will open just fine.

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Can't we have a smiley and a sad button too? Liking someone's misery seems odd to me!

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😎👏

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Hmmmm? I feel duly scolded! ...but with everything going on in my life, I have to admit, I totally missed Blearyeyed's post, altogether! (Sorry Blearyeyed, I will go back and find it.)

And I know you can all do without my adding my "two cents," but... I don't think it's a good thing, that any Member, strongly suggests to other Members, that they should be obliged or compelled to "Like," "Comment," or be otherwise "engaged in" another Member's Post.

It was mentioned above, that we are all grown ups and have freedom of choice, thought and speech; no Member should ever feel that they are "required" or "expected," to respond/comment, or "Like," anything posted.

Just sayin....

PS - Dear Blearyeyed, for the record... I thoroughly enjoy your posts; you're funny, insightful, authentic, knowledgable and honest! 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

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Of course Melissa - it was only intended as only a gentle nudge, and we all have a choice ;-)

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Sorry Uncle

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I thoroughly agree. X

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I must admit it's probably my comment about being adults you may have seen. I just wanted people to realise there are options for every one on the forum and as adults we have to make decisions and if that means just ignoring certain topics, joining in or even just watching then we are old enough to do this without being upset. I personally love the way things wander off but I know if I need to find something out medically I can get that info as well. YBxx

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Thanks YB, I agree with you, 100%!

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Some posts make my blood boil, some make me laugh

, some make me shout replies and some are really helpful. It has never occurred to me to ‘like’ or ‘unlike’ any of them. We all have opinions and we are all able to like or dislike without pressing buttons.

I am happy to read them all, discard those I wish to and take comfort from the rest

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Just thought it's nice for a contributor to get this type of feedback if their Post resonates with us (even if don't comment on it). That said, we all have a choice either way... ;-)

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With you all the way!

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Yes , but you are really kind and either like or follow us all like a Guardian Angel.

I am totally boggled by your ability to do it and your commitment to looking after us all here and on other forums.

BRAINS , not just that , your are really a Superhero every day in what you do.

Thanks so much xxx

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Don't know how to post a blushing emoji!!!!

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😳

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I was going to like that comment Pat but I think you're quite right!

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I have obviously missed the post you’re talking about here Mark. Will have to go back and have a look!

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Haven't you got better things to do Jackie...? :-D

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Unfortunately no at the moment!! Cheeky!! - why am I not surprised?! 😃

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Ohh, sorry J, thought you meant one of my Posts. It was actually one from Blearyeyed about how to write stuff here and navigate through the off-topic stuff. Got ALOT of (mixed) responses... !

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Ok 👍😜

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Uncle MB , you really are mean ( not!)

Sending all your poor readers off to read through all my drivelling , this is meant to be a PMR/ GCA Health Forum giving people tips on how to feel better with PMR not causing users to provoke a ' flare up ' !!

You are a very naughty boy😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😋

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Ohhh... sorry Bee. It was with the best intentions, but better keep my mouth shut in future? The last thing I want to do is start (or perpetuate) an almighty FFIIGGGHHHHTTT here! :-D

Just goes to show what a diverse community this is - and with a wide range of opinions on just about anything and everything? ;-)

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As I was going to add after the Radio Silence ( either technical or administrative 😜)

I will send you some of my knitting needles and a sock pattern to distract you.

Although, I know you have always been secretly tempted to start your own PMR/GCA version of Fight Club I am not sure how many of us could give a physically good show , despite willing.

I might manage a few rounds, did you hear in another chat , apparently I am a perfect contestant for the Worlds Strongest Man ( despite being a woman and as feeble as a bent stick) , they kept pinging me the application form for weeks.

I have a feeling however, I would be better off finishing the hat I have been trying to knit the OH since before Christmas so it's finished in time for July in Wales!

Plus , I think , with the GCA/PMR and other random associated illnesses my days as a Tutu wearing Fairy Glitter Wrestler are beyond me ( at least for now anyway , and yes that is a thing!)

Big Hugs to you Uncle and all our wonderful Community

And be happy in the fact we all know and love that

Variety is the Pred in our Prune Juice , hugs Bee xx 😁😋

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I had absolutely no idea about this LIKE business ! I just read and reply or post if I have anything to say. Well, at least I know now . Kudos to everyone who posts stuff to help us or make us laugh. Thank you.

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I have been fascinated about the like discussion, although had to give up half way through. If that is anything to go by nobody will read this. I am 85 and had no trouble working out that unlike comes up just in case you need to undo it for any reason.

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