Diet soda

[Pamela4475]

Can someone tell me again why we can’t have an occasional carbonated diet soda or and carbonated drinks? Had to give up fats, salts, sugar.....🙄😞

[IAmTheGlue]

I've never heard that.

[Pamela4475 in reply to IAmTheGlue]

Thanks 😊

[Shulsey]

I drink carbonated drinks. I drink mostly water but I don't see how anything carbonated would be a issue

[Pamela4475 in reply to Shulsey]

Yay 😁

[Ballymahon2]

I never heard that

[Pamela4475 in reply to Ballymahon2]

I font want them all the time but geez we can’t eat anything good.....so yay 😃

[gwillistexas]

I have heard this too. Something about the high fructose syrup. I had read an article from research in Israel, that it can cause fatty liver. I never was a big soda drinker but at diagnosis I stopped them completely.

[gwillistexas]

Robert can give you a good speech on sugar. But sadly, I’ve not completely given up sugar in my coffee & a sweet treat here & there. I was never told to give up fat, but try to focus on lean meat, salt in moderation. I’ve not done too well with my diet. I have a very healthy appetite & sometimes I eat things I shouldn’t just to satisfy my hunger.

[BskHB in reply to gwillistexas]

Hello and Happy New Year! Is the sugar speech online? I've never been a sugar person but I'm now having episodes of hypoglycemia and massive sugar cravings so any information is greatly appreciated!!

[gwillistexas in reply to BskHB]

No, lol! I was on another support group few months ago. The subject of sugar came up, I think it was soft drinks. We were lucky to have Robert step in & help us out on this. Can’t remember everything but basically sugar is poison to our bodies.

[gwillistexas in reply to BskHB]

Maybe Robert will see your post & help you. 😊

[Pamela4475 in reply to gwillistexas]

Maybe so but I’m asking for diet drink occasionally but I guess the additives are no better

[Michi1 in reply to Pamela4475]

The artificial sweeteners and stimulants in diet soda essentially trick your body into a cortisol response, and it can in the end affect your insulin levels ... it’s worse for you than the kind with sugar which is terrible for you, but if it’s the cold drink with bubbles thing you love, how about club soda with a squeeze of lemon or lime, or a splash of cranberry?

[June9961]

News to me. I drink carbonated drinks too but I also drink a lot of water. Never been told not to.

[Pamela4475 in reply to June9961]

Ty

[usernameblah]

I think all things in moderation.The permanently dry mouth makes one want other things,water just doesn't always do it.I've never liked fizzy drinks but now I have them sometimes. What is the point if there is no enjoyment?

[Pamela4475 in reply to usernameblah]

Exactly

[Hidden]

I am lucky I don’t like fizzy drinks but I think it would be the sugar content that’s generally unhealthy.

I’ve not given up, fats salt or sugar, or ever been told to. I asked my consultant early on in this journey about diet and was told to eat a healthy diet for the general health benefits, there was nothing specific I needed to do for my pbc. (that may be different for others) So from a general health perspective I do try to watch the amounts I eat, but I’ve never cut any foods out compleatly.

I wish I could cut out/or down on the sugar( poison ) but I’am a lost cause on that one, yum I love cake. I gave up any alcohol and the cigarettes, but oooh not the cake. You have to live don’t you...

[Pamela4475 in reply to Hidden]

Ty

[gwillistexas in reply to Hidden]

Agree! Can’t be held prisoner by PBC. I’m going to enjoy 😊.

[cazer]

never been told I can't have either diet or normal... been going liver clinic for 20years...so have a few.. everything... well some things in moderation. x

[Pamela4475 in reply to cazer]

Ty

[mrspeffer]

Happy New Year to everyone. Yep, one more thing for us to give up...carbonated sodas. It appears to be that over time, the ingredients in your average can of soda pop will leads to liver damage. The liver has trouble trying to figure out what to do with is substance. There was a study floating around years back about placing a penny in a can of Coca-cola and within a few days, it would distort or dissolve. Also, carbonation tends to deplete potassium from our systems. Add in all the sugar that erodes the teeth and messed with you pancreas, plus who knows what else, and there you have a recipe for disaster. Then there are the soda pops with artificial sweeteners which is far worse...Pick your poison! There has been talk about carbonated water flushing the liver, but then there is still the potassium issue. Anyone for a tall glass of yummy herbal iced tea???

so tonight as the world drinks their bubbly champagne, what will you toast with? I personally will be crashed out on the couch at about 9:30!!! CHEERS!

[Hidden in reply to mrspeffer]

Me too, 😃 Happy New Year.

[gwillistexas in reply to mrspeffer]

😅. For me, lemon water, lol! I probably won’t be far behind on the time. 💤. I’ll try though. Herbal iced tea sounds good👍. Enjoy!😄🎉

[Pamela4475 in reply to gwillistexas]

I made it to after midnight but was watching a soprano marathon

[Pamela4475 in reply to mrspeffer]

Good info.... i finally got an answer that makes sense besides sugar.... but don’t know why my doc just didn’t say that

[mrspeffer in reply to Pamela4475]

Yeah...we have to remember that doctors are "practicing medicine". In my humble opinion, their experience is limited. Mine was the Twilight Zone Marathon and Aerial America...Party on!!!

[MsPatti]

I think carbonated beverages weaken your bones and with PBC that is just another thing if you can avoid it's better in the long run. I have not been able to kick that habit. I will do great for a while, but then it will creep back in. I totally understand an addict. I love the he fizzy stuff!

[mrspeffer in reply to MsPatti]

It weakens our bones because it leaches out the potassium. The choice is always ours to continue using it or quit. Sodas were never an issue for me, I stopped them in the 90's when i went on some health kick. every now and then, the thought of a root beer float comes to mind, but I just think it through to the end...me feeling sick and having inflammation from the dairy and sugar...Oh what fun!

[Pamela4475 in reply to MsPatti]

Me too and exactly the same stay away then creep back for a diet soda 😊

[ninjagirlwebb]

As everyone noted, carbonated drinks are frowned upon due to sugar content. Additionally the colas do a number on the bones which pbc folks are more probed to osteoporosis. We have to be careful.

I get my carbonated fix by drinking sparkling water with a splash of juice. It is refreshing. I can’t drink soda any longer since my palette founds it too sugary these days. I don’t even like it.

Cheers.

[EileenUSA]

Hi,

It can be discouraging when it feels like we have to stop eating/drinking anything that we are used to. I'm no purist myself. I'm doing the best I can with changes and hope that it helps. I did lose 17-18 pounds when diagnosed as dr told me that the belly fat is SO hard on the liver.. i had to switch off that sugar craving.. not easy. I wish us all the best= whatever we decide to eat, to not eat-- etc..

Happy New year all of you dear ones!

There is some interesting research out there regarding soft drinks (diet and regular type)

telegraph.co.uk/foodanddrin...

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articl...

[gwillistexas in reply to EileenUSA]

Happy New Year to you!

[AliceYZ]

I was diagnosed PBC/AIH overlap syndrome a year ago. Stage or level 3. I find if I have even the littlest bit of sugar, salt or processed food my upper tummy bloats and becomes hard. It actually adds up to an inch to my bra band size! If I am following my self imposed strict diet I am more comfortable and all my body systems work better. I feel better. My doctor has said that to celebrate an occasion with a not so great food is human. I definitely don't drink alcohol as I was never a drinker anyway. I often wonder if I were diagnosed at an earlier stage if i would feel the need to be so strict? Not sure how quickly things progress. I think we are all adults and know our bodies and minds best. Whatever each decides is okay with me! Happy New Year to all!

[gwillistexas in reply to AliceYZ]

Happy New Year to you!

[Pamela4475 in reply to gwillistexas]

Happy new year 🎆🎈🎊

[mrspeffer in reply to AliceYZ]

Sounds like you are giving yourself the best health you can by being what you call "strict".

Good work...it's hard to say no to all the goodies, especially during the holidays. Sometimes they just find their way into our mouths!

[Hidden]

Hi Pamela, I can't say for anyone else what is ok for them to eat, but I do say avoid ever telling yourself that you "can't..." anything because it will set up a rebellion in your mind and then a conflict when you do eat/drink what you "can't"!

Just take care of yourself. Think about what does you good. Choose what you need always and what you desire occasionally. (I had a sugar addiction and put a sign up in my kitchen "What do I REALLY want?" It took a few weeks til I could take it down. Mostly I wanted a nap, or water. I used those small magnetic scrabble tiles and got some relief expressing myself quite strongly up there... It doesn't sound from your post that you have a sugar addiction, but if you do, it takes more than denying yourself to deal with it. I hope you have a great new year with constant choosing for youself x

[mrspeffer in reply to Hidden]

Brilliant putting up that sign. Might try it myself. Thanks for the tip

[Hidden in reply to mrspeffer]

Whatever helps us through the night eh? Don't forget to shuffle the letters after you get over a bad day... my dog can't read but I had the odd red face after an unexpected caller! Best wishes

[Pamela4475 in reply to Hidden]

Thanks for the advise.... good idea