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Hi, I was diagnosed with b12 deficiency 2 years ago . I have 10 weekly injections. Usually I am ok after my jab and only need to SI occasionally inbetween.I had my jab a week ago then the following day had an accident with a kitchen blender. I was really shaken up. Since then I have felt really tired, headaches nausea, numbness and muscle pain. All of which I had for years before my b12 level was tested.My question is, can having a shock to your system deplete b12 quickly.

Many thanks.

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BeachArt

I would say yes, any shock to the body can cause stress, which in turn leads to a depletion of B12

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Mrsmr in reply toBeachArt

Thank you Beach Art. I have felt dreadful. I think I will SI and hope it will help.Hope you are ok.x

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Nackapan

Yes,I think so.Balloons popping shook my nervous system up.

Day after an Injection I'm often dopey / accident prone.

Any stress eats B12 in my opinion

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JMN2017 in reply toNackapan

So how does one cope when 'life' is a permanent stress, please? I suffer from stress and depression so stress is often unavoidable for me!

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Nackapan in reply toJMN2017

It takes a long time to find the right coping strategies for you.Changing lifelong habits even.

I have found I need alot more'time out'

Walks alone .

Reading this .

Frustration the hardest to deal with.

Yes life is full of stresses.

I'm letting so much more wash over me now and certainly pick my fights .

Tricky .

I hope the extra B12 does help you .

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Narwhal10

I am so sorry Mrsmr,

I hope you did not hurt yourself too badly with the kitchen blender. So, in medical speak, you experienced a physical insult. We are very quick to react in these circumstances. The flight, fight or freeze response of the Nervous System kicks in very quickly. We deal with the situation and prevent further injury by this. (A good working Nervous System needs B12).

Then even it is just a small cut, the body does all these amazing things to heal which also needs B12. (Wound healing and B12).

The Nervous System needs to dampen down from the heightened awareness and response. You gave yourself a fright. So, you are using even more B12.

It’s so easily done for us to have accidents in the kitchen. I dropped a knife, it cut my toe. I did not feel a thing, just thought, rude words. I have got to bend down pick it up and mop up my blood. Not more chores.🙄

Hope you feel better soon.

x

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Mrsmr in reply toNarwhal10

Thanks for your reply Narwhal10. It was helpful. I decided to SI this evening to see if that helped. Thanks as always to you all for informative replies and support.

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Orchard33

Yes. Anything disruptive affects me very much since PA diagnosis. In fact it has done for a long time due, I believe, to a long term undiagnosed deficiency. Shocks to the system are bad for us. I now have to reckon on a 2 day to a week recovery after a disruptive event!!

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Mrsmr in reply toOrchard33

Thanks Orchard33. I was hoping that with regular jabs it would be onwards and upwards with no problems.🙄. How wrong I was! Like you it was a long time till I was diagnosed and I had to continue pushing myself to work full time and do everything at home. My doctor said people make too much fuss about b12 deficiency!! I SI'D last night and I think today is a go slow day! 🤞for a speedy recovery. I wish everyone the same. Thank you and take care. X

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Nackapan in reply toMrsmr

Too much fuss about B12 deficiency!!!

Give that doctor one week of our lives .

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Mrsmr in reply toNackapan

Absolutely Nackapan. It's easy to dismiss someone's illness/ pain when you are feeling OK. Over the years I have seen a neurologist ,small areas of demylination found following months of electric shock sensations down my side, extreme fatigue and visual disturbances.When other tests ruled out MS he said probably M E. Gastro said areas of ulceration but nothing to worry about.! I have felt as if I am being treated as a fuss pot with nothing better to do!! I have felt much better since having a diagnosis of b12 deficiency and taking control ,of treating it. The forum has provided information and support to enable me to do that. X

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Narwhal10 in reply toMrsmr

Mrsmr,

Many organisations are attempting to dispel the myths of P.A./AMAG/B12D. I feel it appropriate to use the correct terminology which in turn would make clinicians think again.

Vitamin - vital amine.

Pernicious anaemia - pernicious meaning deadly.

Autoimmune Metaplastic Atrophic Gastritis. - an incurable, chronic autoimmune disease with inflammation of the stomach causing destruction of gland cells. Therefore, low or no stomach acid, impairment of the intrinsic factor and pepsin. Where pepsin helps break downs proteins.

Therefore, the patient may also be protein deficient as well.

uclahealth.org/news/are-you...

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Technoid in reply toNarwhal10

historical aside

Even the name" vitamin" - from "vital amine" is due to a mistaken assumption by early biochemists. The first vitamins discovered were "Amines":

"any member of a family of nitrogen-containing organic compounds that is derived, either in principle or in practice, from ammonia"

from : britannica.com/science/amine

but as additional ones were discovered, it was found that only some were amines. That's when they decided to chop off the "e" from vitamine, creating the "made-up" word "vitamin" whose origins therefore rest in an assumption that turned out not to be true, a mistake preserved forever, in linguistic amber 😁

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Narwhal10 in reply toTechnoid

I concur Technoid only some were amines.

Vitamin in linguistics is a portmanteau as is chortle (chuckle and snort) and internet (interconnected network).

Poor Mrsmr had an accident and a shock, I do hope another B12 injection helped and they are on the mend. 😘

If I was with them in person, I would use my Mother tongue.

Dim problem. Cwtch down yn awr, cariad which roughly translates to

No problem, now snuggle down, my lovely, whilst physically comforting them. The intonation is rather sing-song. Therefore, even if somebody does not understand my actual wording, they would feel comfort.

Us, Celts are rather a tactile lot. The word cwtch cannot be properly translated. Cuddle or snuggle do not quite make the grade. We are conveying love through the use of the word. There’s the expression,

Only the Welsh cwtch.

🐳

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Rosydawn

Definitely shock, strong emotion …good or bad, being extra active or having an emergency to deal with all seem to drain my b12 down almost immediately.

I increase my injection frequency to compensate. Even so it is often only a few days later that I feel like I am back on track.

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Mrsmr in reply toRosydawn

Thanks Rosydawn that's interesting. After I posted 5 days ago I did SI but didn't feel any better until a few days later.I am learning all the time! Thank you and stay well .x

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Wheat

hello Mrsmr, I had an accident with a kitchen blender, down to each side of the nail. Unusually, I was shocked and felt quite ill. So my sympathies to you.

A short while ago there was tremendous noise outside, I felt nervous and shaky for many days.

Im beginning to know what to expect and I take extra B12 to counteract now. Best wishes to you x

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Mrsmr in reply toWheat

Maybe avoid kitchen blenders if your b12 deficient is good advice!! Perhaps our nervous systems are more sensitive?? As you say we learn what affects us and how to deal with it. Bonfire night is coming up so Take care. Best wishes

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Wheat

yes, dont use them now 🙂. We have a local bonfire night, really close. Used to like fireworks now like explosions. You take care too x

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Mrsmr in reply toWheat

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