Hi all, while eventually getting out to do a bit of shopping i came across a protien tin called
"Engivita". Ive looked online and seen it going for £8 on Amazon, cheaper else where but just wondered if it would help with my PA and B12.
I know i cannot absorb B12 but was wondering if the other ingredients would help, or perhaps it could help others on here to put protien in their body to help with their symptons, thats if it works, has anyone tried this if so what were the results, i started only yesterday, a teaspoon full on my seriel.
Hi fbirder, i didnt know that it was the same as Parmesan. It just seemed to have a lot of good ingredients in if you may slighlty lacking in any defiency. Im male and just getting over a UTI infection, which is less common in much worse in men and it made me really ill, and i just felt if i could get some of this inside with me as i dont eat a lot of good meals it may help. Apologies if its no use for anyone
Vegans can treat it as a magic panacea. Apart from having B12 added to eat it doesn’t really have any great uses. The flavour is too cloying for me to be able to eat more than a sprinkle, so it’s not going to be easy to get any macronutrients.
I think you’d have to take quite a lot of it to do any good. I have some and occasionally add it to home made soup but not keen on the flavour on anything else.
I really think with B12 deficiency injections are the only way to go, with daily folic acid to support.
I agree I don’t think this gives you more than marmite or any other low source of b12. Think you can get the same amount of b12 as eating 2 eggs?
Regarding the other ingredients, I’m not sure why protein would need to be supplemented beyond normal food. Even sports scientists (I use the word in the true sense ) agree that this fashion for taking protein supplements like whey isolate is a bit of a myth since you can get most of what you need from normal food, and the extra amounts you need when training is a lot less than people believe. That doesn’t stop Holland and Barrett and other sports supplements retailers selling goods a shed load of whey though.
All proteins are digested (via the acid in your stomach and enzymes a bit later) into their constituent parts (amino acids) in any case before being able to be absorbed by the gut.
Lower stomach acid makes all digestion more problematic (carbs, protein and fats) so taking more protein or other nutrients than you need seems counter productive . You can quite easily achieve all the essential amino acids you need by eating a variety of proteins (nuts, seeds, egg white, dairy, meat, fish, legumes etc etc) or even just one (whey, casein, soya etc).
Big thing to remember is that the amount of protein you need is relatively small, around 0.8-2g per kg of body weight. That’s around 56g per day for an average man 46g for a woman. For context, this is about half a small chicken breasts worth a day so quite easy to achieve by normal eating (3 meals etc.). Even training althletes would only need Say 1.5 chicken breasts worth of protein a day.
There are some newer studies that suggest that protein when used in weight loss shakes can enhance weight loss and satiety. However other studies show that protein from food is a better way of conditioning a normal digestive response. This is because the associated fibre in particular helps to signal fullness and regulate your digestive hormone response in a more complete way with all the extra benefits of fibre for normal digestive transit etc. However M&S got into a bit of bother by over claiming in this area (fuller for longer range) by jumping the gun on packaging claims before the EU has decided that there are sufficient studies to warrant a health claim.
Sorry for war and peace especially for those with brain fog (tried to break up the text)...there is a lot of nonsense regarding supplements and nutrition on the internet so thought it best to give context etc. Sorry if this is not what you meant by other ingredients or is what you already knew.
I think that this is best used as a seasoning as it can be rather cloying if you try to eat a teaspoon of it! (yes I've done that!)
As 06hollyberry says it is nice added to home made soup; I use it with a swirl of olive oil. I think if you cook with it at a high heat you may destroy the B12 in it so best added towards the end of cooking.
If you search online there's lots of suggestions for how to use it.
I'm one of those strange folk that actually like it!
I’m one of the strange people who like it. I add it to mashed potato, pasta sauces, soups and casseroles. I do it because I’m a vegetarian and because I sneak b12 into the diet of the people I live with and cook for. Lol. It makes not the slightest bit of difference however to the amount of injections of b12 I need.
I also like it and sprinkle a teaspoon of it onto omelettes.
It is not just B12 but naturally contains b-complex. Its a great addition to the diet if vegan or vegetarian, assimilated as a food source rather than tablet.
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