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Benefits of adding more probiotic foods into diet

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Benefits:

Stronger immune system

Improved digestion

Increased energy from production of vitamin B12

Better breath because probiotics destroy candida

Healthier skin, since probiotics naturally treat eczema and psoriasis

Reduced cold and flu

Healing from leaky gut syndrome and inflammatory bowel disease

Weight loss

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Is this the same Dr Axe (not a medical doctor) who makes money trying to persuade people to buy special mud (that contains lead, mercury, arsenic and other heavy metals) that works via the power of positive electrons (i.e., antimatter)?

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"In addition to the impact on our immune systems, our digestive systems are the second largest part of our neurological system. It’s called the enteric nervous system and is located in the gut. This is why it’s called our second brain!

Many people with health issues, such as thyroid imbalances, chronic fatigue, joint pain, psoriasis, autism and many other conditions don’t realize that these illnesses originate in the gut."

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I haven't read much of the article but it claims quite early on that probiotics support production of B12 in the gut - well it may do in cows but it definitely doesn't in humans as we don't produce B12 but need to extract it from our.

in relation to the claim that thyroid problems start in the gut I haven't come across anything that supports that. As far as I can work out from looking at research papers and literary reviews etc nobody seems entirely sure what does cause them - or what triggers auto-immune thyroidosis ... and nobody seems to know exactly what is the link between thyroid problems and absorption problems. In fact it seems that there are likely to be several mechanisms involved that vary from person to person and are probably dependent on genetic and environmental factors (causing latent genes to express).

It may be that the author is playing fast and loose with his terminology but I'm afraid it leaves me very sceptical.

I'm not against probiotics but I am very sceptical about the claims made in this article which seem to give a very biased presentation.

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I think we all understand what Dr A means by probiotics supporting B12, as many of us on this forum already successfully use probiotics and fermented foods to maintain gut health and healthy microvilli to enable better absorption of B12 from food !

Re. thyroid and the gut, there is ample research but, as with B12 deficiency, disgracefully it remains unread and not acted upon - I wonder why? I'd recommend Dr Barry Peatfield's and Dr Kharrizian's books. The latter is a leading neuro-scientist, researcher and lecturer to post graduates, pioneering a root cause approach to autoimmunity - the gut/brain connection - as well as acknowledging that the thyroid gland metabolic pathway is connected in many ways, including gastrointestinal function, adrenal hormone metabolism, stomach acid production, brain chemistry changes and liver detoxification. His books are extremely well researched and he has achieved success in reversing early autoimmune thyroid disease with gluten free diet, etc.

Re. 'nobody seems to know exactly what is the link between thyroid problems and absorption problems' - this was first posted by 'Diogenes', research scientist and advisor to TUK HU :

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articl...

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Hi Polaris,

I get the impression that it is more to do with not believing all of Dr Axes article.

I am really interested in pre and probiotics. I think my b12 deficiency may be linked to my IBS. I have started taking kefir daily and have my first attempt of fermented salsa fermenting away at the moment. Not sure if I am going to like the taste yet though. I am hoping that I can increase my bodies ability to absorb b12 and reduce my need for injections only time will tell.

Do you have any good recipes to share?

Padders12

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I'm gluten free and have taken organic sauerkraut from the local health food shop, as well as probiotics, with relief from many long term digestive symptoms for a couple of years now. Home made is supposed to be better as it's not pasteurised. I've found Bional sauerkraut works as well for me personally though.

I collected a few recipes for kimchi from the internet but, so far, have not tried any so full of admiration for your fermented salsa 🤗and do hope it works for you.

I found Swedish Bitters a brilliant remedy for IBS. Turmeric as recommended by a forum member here completely relieved the inflammations in a recent bout of painful diverticulitis.

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the article you reference on thyrogastric syndrome is one I am very aware of and it explains that there is a correlation but reports that nothing clear comes up on causal relationships.

I have read Dr Peatfield's book and found the same issue - recognition of correlation - but no clear idea about what the causal mechanisms are.

I think there are a lot of people out there who would understand what Dr A is saying as meaning that humans can produce B12 in their guts given the right inputs - so would totally disagree with 'I think we all understand what Dr A means by probiotics supporting B12'. Not everyone who visits this forum is familiar by anymeans with how B12 works or aware that the human body does not produce B12.

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