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Had knee replacement on July, 2015. The surgery was successful but pain pills were used and I had hallucinations. I did not remember anything. I actually still remember the content of the images.

I was diagnosed for PD three months ago.

Question: Could I have brain damage or is it both?

Symptoms;

Belching, gas, words (labeling), bleary vision, fatigue

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Hikoi

It's Parkinson's, we are prone to hallucinations and some medications can tip the balance

Belching, gas. - digesting and constipation problems of PD

Word find problems - cognitive problems of PD

Bleary vision - vision problems of PD include this and double vision

Fatigue - common PD symptom very little investigation has been done on it.

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jacquiosz in reply to Hikoi

hell. you are going to make me think i have PD. but its also from the epilum. it makes you slow. the neurologist put me on 500mg of epilum and i dont remember an entire week. the only reason why i knew, was i asked the lecturer when he was going to teach us chi square and he said he had finished. i could remember part of a day but there are blank spaces. i actually looked at my book and couldnt believe my own handwriting was there.

i didnt know i couldnt remember something and i would have gone on in life thinking everything was normal. saved by chi square.

if gas and burping were a problem, i have had PD since i was about 12. lol

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DianeF

My first knee replacement led me into Parkinsons within days of the surgery. You can't believe the number of people I have spoken to who have said some type of surgery set off Parkinsons. I believe I had drug induced Parkinsons from the anti nausea meds and was one of the lucky 16% that go on to have full Parkinsons. I felt like I had brain damage afterwards for months. I do know general anesthesia definitely does not agree with me. I also know the pain meds made me cry and shake incessantly and I stopped them as soon as I could. I had a spinal done for my second knee and fared much better with different meds.

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Hikoi in reply to DianeF

Or it could be that surgery was the final assault and PD showed itself. After all it is said to take about 10yrs to develop before it's diagnosed.

Seems like you got the wrong meds, ones that make a person with PD worse. There a number of meds we can't take especially anti nausea ones.

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jacquiosz in reply to DianeF

yes. i have a reaction to certain pain-killers. i either go red, hot and bloated or feel stoned and my irises dont change with light.

how can nausea pills affect PD?

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Pauldmd

While I have no firsthand experience with this, a friend of mine with Parkinson's disease had major surgery and suffered significant hallucinations postoperatively in the hospital. His hospital room window looked out over a river. He recalled seeing the angel of death ferrying people wrapped in white shrouds back-and-forth across the river. I have had problems after the light sedation that is used in a colonoscopy. The anesthesia stays in your system for quite some time after the surgery. I would certainly broach this with your physician but it is likely that the symptoms will subside over time. The problem with Parkinson's disease is that we are always waiting for the other shoe to drop. Hopefully, this is not the case in your situation.

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glenandgerry

It seems an incredibly high number of people with Parkinson's either have arthritis or have had knee/hip replacements. Yet when we mentioned this to the Orthopedic surgeon, he said very few of the patients he operated on had PD which doesn't seem to correlate with the information we read here on HU.

My PD husband was diagnosed with arthritis in his 40s. He's now 62 - diagnosed with Parkinson's 2005, had first knee joint replacement in 2008 and the then the other knee joint replaced end of 2014. He had a spinal for both ops but he definitely 'went backwards' with his PD symptoms after having the surgery (but no hallucinations since, only during recovery and now occasionally 'acting out' his dreams at night time).

I sometimes wonder if everyone with PD who has joint replacements actually need them or whether the person is in pain due to having Parkinson's?

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Hikoi in reply to glenandgerry

Perhaps these people mostly had surgery before diagnosis so the surgeon wouldn't know they got diagnosed with PD sometime after.

Did they need the surgery - good question. Certainly some didn't .

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jacquiosz in reply to glenandgerry

do you not think falls happen more commonly in PD because of the balance problem in PD? i have a knee problem and i think i did it myself. i was trying to stretch the one tendon and thought, oh well, just force it, whats the worst that can happen? it snaps? no. oops. it doesnt snap. it stays with you for life. i guess we have pain for a reason.

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