What does this sound like?

[mils7083]

I am a 21 year old female. I used to be anorexic and bad a pretty bad exercise addiction - running around 20km daily. Now running about 7 km a day and have lately been feeling like there is some sort of strange feeling in my knees, hard to describe, same creakiness as you would expect with the worn out door hinges?

I don't have any major pain in knees after running, just a constant dull ache thats worse with squatting and going up and down stirs - but if I place my hand on the knee cap and then bend my knee and straighten out , I can feel the vibrations like how a door hinge gives a vibration as we move the door. Really concerned. Please help!

I can feel something like a weird grinding/vibrating sensation "in" my knee (Not in the same way I imagine tendonitis to do) when I move my feet up and down after having them placed on the ground (especially noticeable when driving), or even sometimes lying down flat on my back rotating my leg while just having my heel on the ground. I also can push at my patella with my fingers and create the same creaking sensation.

Also I sometimes get some redness and inflammation around my knee in the afternoon? Please help! very scared this is osteoarthritis or chondromalacia. I have had X-Rays and it does not show anything

[rabbits65]

The grinding you describe is where the Synovial fluid is drying up around the knee . You need this fluid importantly to stop bone on bone rubbing . . We are not doctors or physios on here . You need to go and book a private physio for quickness as your wait forever on the NHS . When I was your age my synovial fluid dried up , it was called “ Tenosynovitus “ I had it in the wrist and elbow where I was a typist and played badminton . Hope you sort yourself out before you wear yourself out.

[Bevvy]

You need to go back to gp for more investigations. X-ray has limited usefulness in that only shows bones. So would show some forms of arthritis but nothing to do with ligaments and muscles. Or as rabbit65 suggests anything to do with fluid around joints.It certainly sounds like you have done some damage to your knees due to amount of running. Road running is known to cause potential issues and especially the distances you have were doing . Plus possible damage to bones etc due to anorexia.

Finally you really should look at whether or not running even 7km every day is sensible at the moment. You could be doing significant long term damage whilst you still have symptoms but no diagnosis. Maybe look at other forms of exercise where your knees are not under pressure whilst this is being investigated.

[Scotsman53]

Just to reinforce what others have said, overuse can cause arthritis as well as other conditions, particularly if you're persisting through pain, running on a damaged joint. Cut the running to an absolute minimum or better yet switch to a non-weight bearing form of exercise. I'd say both make a GP appointment to get it properly investigated AND see a physio privately for guidance in the short term.

[Batty1]

Grinding sound when bending knee is probably arthritis and you said you had anorexia and because of this you should have your D levels checked.

[terry0400-40]

Ok at bed time please massage the area of concern with a good quality organic olive oil,

Also once a week apply this same massage as far as possible directly under your R/H rib cage area of stomach beginning at the centre and presing outwards towards R/H side,

Five minutes should be enough time to spend on each area.

To further enhance the action of the olive oil then the addition of one or two drops of 100 % pure Frankincense oil may be diluted into the olive oil.

You may apply enough olive oil with each massage application so that the areas do not become dried out and thus prevent a smooth experience .. o k sea ya.. TAB

[etheral]

Possibly sounds likes symptoms of a torn meniscus. You would need an orthopedic consult and a MRI to confirm this. Treatment is surgical.

Best off luck in getting this resolved, etheral