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An interesting read and thank you for sharing, however there are so many theories, eat this do this do that, this will affect you this wont affect you, that we read or hear of each day about health, wellness and RD/ our immune system, that sometimes it can feel overwhelming and can stop us from leading a life as we can struggle to take it all in. I think we have to keep informed but also as unique as our bodies are decide what feels right for us. There is no right or wrong with RD and all it brings as can be like trying to unravel a tangled ball of wool not only trying to understand it's complexities but also the plethora of information/studies and theories which are out there in respect of this disease. Sending kind wishes.

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Dobcross1

All I know is, that whenever I've tried to take probiotics its led to me feeling worse! (eczema flaring, stomach problems etc). Yet every complementary therapist and nutritionist I've seen recommends them!

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Agoodlife in reply toDobcross1

That’s how it goes. change never stops 😲

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I was a little amazed considering that most of the probiotics seem to contain very little in the way of active bacteria when analysed. Perhaps these people were taking large amounts? And not much else? I would like to see some blinded trials before I believe this (although I don't personally take any probiotics, just a Mediterranean diet)

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I've been taking antibiotics for the last few months but have decided to stop them because they are beginning to lose effect on my skin condition, and because of gastric issues I've been having this past week or two, which I suspect is due to the antibiotics as it has started to ease since I've stopped taking them. I started taking probiotics a couple of days ago hoping they will help my stomach recover. I plan on taking them for a week or so, which may not be long enough to do much good, but shouldn't do much harm either.

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Agoodlife in reply towishbone

Oh but there are ill effects on the gut bacteria. Recent studies. It’s another thing if you are on antibiotics for a limited period.

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wishbone in reply toAgoodlife

What, with taking probiotics for a week or so?

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Do have a look at this.

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latest science.

I am sure one week is ok🙂

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wishbone in reply toAgoodlife

Interesting. I don't plan on taking probiotics long-term, but have started a short-term course hoping they will help my stomach after 3 months of taking antibiotics. Not looking forward to my skin problem returning as it is a nasty uncomfortable thing, but neither do I want to continue taking antibiotics.

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Agoodlife in reply towishbone

Are you still taking doxy still or some other antibiotic. Have understood that low dose doxy for skin as well as gut helps.

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wishbone in reply toAgoodlife

I stopped the dioxy a few days ago because it was losing effect with my skin condition. I've also had increased gut trouble this past week, which I suspect was due to the dioxy, but perhaps not reading your link. Anyway, I've had enough problems with antibiotic resistance in the past so don't want to go back to my GP who will probably prescibe another antibiotic to replace the dioxy. As horrible as this skin thing is, I'll try and put up with it rather than continue taking antibiotics which become resistant in a few months. Don't know if it's coincidence, but the septic spots seem more painful since I've been taking antibiotics.

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I don't understand how probiotics are connected with RA. I have read the article and I think it is basic common sense not to take something for the sake of it. If you have a G.I. problem and probiotics help, there is no harm in taking them. There is no point in taking probiotics if you do not have an underlying health condition needing them. People are advised to take them following a course of antibiotics.

Probiotics are very effective for an overgrowth of candida which you are likely to have in the bowel if you keep getting thrush (in the vagina or mouth). Candida is a natural inhabitant of the bowel. Products vary depending on the company. I have always used products from Biocare. I suffered dreadfully from thrush for 14 years and spent 10 of those on a sugar-free diet. On discovery of Biocare's cream and pessaries 30 years ago, I found I could eat sugar to my heart's content. (Note most people have Candida Albicans but there are three or four other uncommon but not rare strains of Candida which are not responsive to conventional treatments)

Around 20 years ago, I was suffering very badly with G.I. symptoms (diarrhoea etc) plus urticaria and dizziness. I tried Replete by Biocare which is a six month dose of probiotics taken over seven days, more out of desperation than anything else. All symptoms disappeared. After that, I used this product around every six months for many years, and it also curtailed thrush. I also tried another product by Biocare, which is Oregano oil mixed with various probiotics, several capsules being encapsulated within one capsule to give a timed release of different ingredients at different times. I found this more effective than Replete but it has been discontinued. At the time, I spoke to the medical info dept at Biocare regarding the dizziness who told me that research was being done on the effect of gut bacteria on the brain. I'm still not really sure what caused the dizziness but definitely something untoward in the G.I. tract.

A lack of gut bacteria is suspected as a cause of autism and research is being done on it. My great nephew was diagnosed with autism at age three. He was born with a kidney infection and was given antibiotics for six months but no probiotics. I can't help feeling there is a link.

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