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I finally received the PIP assessement appointment letter. The made the appointment for 9am in the morning on the other side of London. There is no way I could make such a journey at that time of the morning and given the fact that it is on the form that I have R.A and Sarcoidosis why would they set such a time.

As luck would have it I wen to my R.A support group and asked for advice only for the hospital tell me that they have a centre four bus stops from my home so why would they ask me to go to South London is clearly designed to set me up to fail. They also agreed that the time is also unacceptable. My Rheumy nurse was kind and actually called them up and told them I could not make it and could they come and see me at home. They said no because i am mobile and they have no where closer, of course she argued that that is not true and if they have no where closer then they have no choice but to visit me because I cannot make it; they relented and made an appointment closer, not the one near my home but a lot near than they were sending me.

If they know they have centres within the area of where people live why send then appointments at the worst time of the day and as far away as possible. i have found out that I am not the only one this has happened to and clearly the DWP continue to not only wage a war against disabled people but are clearly doing everything in their power to get you to fail this so called assessment. So evil!

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nomoreheels profile image
nomoreheels

You're not alone in this I'm afraid. It happened to me & another person I know. In my case I knew no different, that there was actually an assessment centre closer to home, until my PIP review appointment came & it was at a different one, the same city but in a difficult place to get to. There was no parking on site only across a dual carriageway in a multi storey car park with an option of two pelican crossings with the assessment centre midway between the two, an unacceptable & difficult distance to walk. I'd read here that someone had a similar issue so checked online for Asos centres, lo & behold there was one in the next town, car parking literally steps from the front door! Needless to say I called & requested I changed to that one, I had another couple of weeks wait but it was worth it. The same happened to the other person, same assessment centre in the city when it was equally close for them to attend the one in the next town.

You're able to change the venue just the once but if it makes it easier for you I recommend you do it. I do know that they take distances as the crow flies which is ridiculous especially when the appointments centre staff have no clue of the area you live in & ease of journey.

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Paisley58 in reply to nomoreheels

Thanks, i have done just that, of course they refused to have the appointment changed to the centre four bus stops away, but the one they have sent me to is still a lot closer than the other side of London. I hope everything goes well for you.

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rab1874

Great that you’ve been able to get a place closer and just another example off the DWP treating disabled people like war criminals xxx

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Paisley58 in reply to rab1874

I actually do feel like a criminal this process so far has been really horrible and the staff (DWP) speak to me like I crap on their shoe. Very disheartening.

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Lulumae

When I had my PIP assessment last year the original centre was in South London. I live in West London and am unable to use public transport at the moment. I rang and asked if they would pay for a cab they agreed. I then received a letter rearranging my appointment to a centre in my local high street, literally five minutes from my home.... Why not allocate me that one in the first place..

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Mmrr in reply to Lulumae

...tempting to say they were up to skullduggery....

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dembonesDAMNBONES in reply to Lulumae

I put in my application that I'd attend anywhere they wanted to assess me, but they'd be paying the taxi fares both ways.

I'm awaiting their response. :)

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dembonesDAMNBONES in reply to Lulumae

Quick update:

They sent me a letter, three days ago, which I got just this minute.

No assessment!

Says they have all the info they need and will contact me with their decision.

Guess I'll find out soon enough. :)

Words are beyond me🤬🤬🤬🤯🤯

Mmrr profile image
Mmrr

The walking distance from the bus stop to the assessment centre in Edinburgh was given on the DWP website as 5 mins. It isn't, even for a fit healthy person it is a 7/8 minute walk, uphill, through cobbled streets. I emailed and complained about the misinformation on three occasions before they acknowledged that, it was in fact longer than a 5 minute walk and said they would change the information on the web page. They have, it now says a short walk.

When I arrived for my assessment , the first question I was asked was how did I travel to the centre.

I'm long enough in the tooth to suspect a bit skullduggery going on.

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Paisley58 in reply to Mmrr

Definately, just reading everyone comments it's clear they are deliberately setting up disabled people to 'fail' it's disgusting and unfair.

Oh wow that is so bad I am so shocked by the antics. I am so glad you had someone on your side to call for you. I think the morale is don't get pushed around push back!

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Jillyanne

They did that to me, sent me miles away , had to get the train but then they slated me , in my report because “apparently “ if you can catch a train you are capable 🤬🤬🤬🤬

If I had gone by car I would have had to walk for over 10 minutes to get to the meeting

in reply to Jillyanne

Interesting reading as my assessment last year was a round trip of 44 miles when it could have been 29 at a closer centre.

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Jillyanne

I applied for PIP Nov 2018 and still waiting , it’s gone to appeal.

Disgusting that genuine people have to wait soooooooooo long 🤬🤬🤬🤬

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dembonesDAMNBONES in reply to Jillyanne

Get CAB involved.

Gnarli profile image
Gnarli

It's a total national disgrace. Being treated as frauds before any assessment can be made. Devious, obstructive, nasty system. Skullduggery is too mild a word for their activities

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Paisley58 in reply to Gnarli

Reading everyone comment is making me re-think that word. What a nasty way to treat people who are already dealing with various levels of discomfort and discrimination and now criminalization has been added to the mix.

Gnarli profile image
Gnarli in reply to Paisley58

And I though you were presumed innocent until proved guilty...

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Paisley58 in reply to Gnarli

Exactly!

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Pulfs

My appointment was on a business park near READING but was 2 jctsdown the m4 from me,luckily hubby is retired so drove me there as public transport was a no no . Parking was outside right by the door but I did notice the assessor walked out to meet me do you think might of been to catch me out walking,but saw me hanging on to hubbys arm . I think they should come to the house for the interviews xx

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Paisley58 in reply to Pulfs

shake my head, the levels they go to to make disable people out to be liars.

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Recorder500L

I always ask on all forms for appointments after 11.00am and a venue nearest to me.

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Paisley58 in reply to Recorder500L

That's exactly what was done, received a letter today the appointment is at 2pm because for me morning appointments are the worse due to my slow coach functioning.

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Recorder500L in reply to Paisley58

Brilliant. Take care.

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Leics

Yep I had mine recently too. The 1st letter they sent was in Birmingham city centre that is over an hour away by train without taxi ride etc. I couldn’t sit in a car for that long either and motorways terrify me. All of this I put on the 40+ page form. What part of housebound can’t walk don’t drive and need full time care don’t they understand??? Long story short they had to do a home visit and I must say I found it extremely stressful and humiliating. I sent loads of medical reports and evidence too.

in reply to Leics

I had a home visit. I too found it humiliating. I had a nice clean house and dress nicely. All went against me. No mention of my husband who sat the room with me and bless him had cleaned and tidied the house.

Will leave dirty dishes and knickers around next time.

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Paisley58 in reply to

That sounds horrific and what the hell does a nice house and dressing nicely got to do with disability. The levels of ignorance never ceases to amaze me

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Paisley58 in reply to Leics

I am so sorry this happened to you, makes you wonder if they actually read the form which I suspect they did and decided to call your bluff just to see if you would come all that way. So shady!

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Leics

Yeah I thought a complete stranger basically asking you if you can manage to wipe your own arse and trying to get you to stand on one leg and bend down on two legs, pretty disgusting thing to try and make someone do. I have evidence from a works tribunal doctor which said the NHS found I incapable of working and signed by docs when I was forced to retire (was the right decision in hindsight). But along with two consultants and one GP saying my disability has made me virtually unable to walk and my disease is not controlled. What more do these people want ? I’ve never been so angry that I had to be put through it. I felt like a fraud which I am not. They don’t consider that getting DLA or PIP is the only independence that I have left and I use it to help with disability aids and to keep our car on the road. Grrrrrr 🤬🤬🤬 sorry still a sore subject. We will see in 6 weeks time.

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Paisley58

That's horrific!!! I understand your rage. It's kind of how I feel. I was on DLA indefinately, had to give up work by my Consultant, all I did was basically ignore him, retrained in something else and went on to work for another 41/2 years before my body got the better of me. Suddenly under this PIP thing I am literally being told I am not disabled and lazy, it is truly offensive and you're right this entire process does make you feel like a fraud.

Good luck, I hope your application is successful.

Chrissycl profile image
Chrissycl

They did the same to me, I rang them and said I can't travel that distance and do they have one nearer to my home. The man who answers was very helpful and explained that I can change my appointment only once and yes they had one very close to where I live so they changed it to that one for me.

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Paisley58 in reply to Chrissycl

Excellent! I wish you every success through this process.

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Chrissycl in reply to Paisley58

Sorry I should have also said this happened last year and yes it was successful, thankmyou for you good wished though and I hope you are just as succesful too

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Paisley58 in reply to Chrissycl

Mentally waving cheerleaders pomp pomp in the air with a big shimmy, that's great news! Gives me hope Chrissycl, all the best!

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