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Besremi - After Two Years

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Hi, all. I've been on Besremi for two years now and wanted to share an update and my experience. It's been a very good experience, so far; and I'm optimistic that Besremi is both controlling my blood counts and modifying disease progression.

I'm 62 now. I was diagnosed with PV at age 44 and did nothing but phlebotomies until age 60. My hematologist/oncologist at a highly regarded cancer center (but not an MPN specialist) always told me I'd go on HU at age 60. I wasn't too worried about it; because it always seemed far away, and I felt fine on phlebotomies (just some fatigue).

At age 60, we moved to the Midwest; and I sought out on MPN specialist. He did a BMB, which showed disease progression (level 2 fibrosity), an allele burden of 88%, and 2 out of 10 abnormal karyotypes. (I'm not sure what the karyotype thing means, actually.) Based on an assessment of symptoms and the BMB results, the doctor determined I still had PV and hadn't yet moved to MF. He said, "We need to get you on an interferon." It was a battle to get insurance approval, but I started Besremi in June 2022, at age 60.

Besremi Dosing

He started me at 100, and we moved up by 50 every two weeks (with a couple exceptions). By mid-October 2022, I was at 500. I tolerated it well. I had some very slight nausea early on and some rashes/dry skin patches. I did experience some melancholy and mood stuff (not depression), but that subsided over time.

The drug brought down the platelets and WBC pretty quickly, getting to normal in about 4 months. It took longer to get and keep the HCT in the normal range -- about 11 months.

About 15 months after starting the drug (September 2023), some of my counts were getting too low (platelets under 100, WBC below normal); so we started backing off the drug. I'm now at 250 and will probably stabilize at that level.

I know this dosing was more aggressive than some doctors think appropriate, but I was game for it as long I was tolerating it. I was all about going after that allele burden and hoped the high dose would help with that.

Progress

In June 2023 (after being on the drug for a year), we did another BMB. The two abnormal karyotypes had disappeared. The fibrosity hadn't gotten worse. The allele burden had gone down to 80% - still super high, but better.

In May 2024, the doctor checked the allele burden through blood work. It was 35.4%! I didn't believe this, so I waited to share it until after my Dr. visit last week. It is true! Hey, it's higher than a lot of other people; but a lot lower than where I started.

Symptoms

Two other things have happened since being on Besremi. The terribly annoying itching after showers has gone away completely, and I'm no longer waking up at night throwing off the covers because of heat. My spouse and I no longer argue about how cold we can get the bedroom. :) I'm not sure what led to this, but maybe the lower allele burden?

When talking this over with my Dr., he said the interferon is "toxic" to the JAK2. It can take a while, but it eventually "breaks it." He also said that data shows that the interferon does most of its work to reduce the allele burden in the first three years, stabilizing after that.

So, I'm very thankful to be on this drug, hoping it keeps working, and hoping all of you have the best journey possible as we deal with these MPNs.

Also, especially if you were diagnosed at a young age, talk to your doctor about treatment, other than phlebotomies. Don't assume that because you feel good and tolerate the phlebotomies that nothing is going on inside that bone marrow. These cells are sneaky. They're reproducing, even if we don't feel it. My only regret is not getting on Pegasus as soon as it was a treatment for PV.

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Glad to hear you’ve been doing well & that Besremi has worked well for you. Here’s to many more healthy years 🤝🏻🍻

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KLCTJC

Yeah!!!! I am so happy for you!!!! Wonderful news!!! I think Besremi has been a game changer for both of us!!! 😊 I think you will continue to see improvement! Thanks for the awesome update

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hunter5582

Glad to hear your good news. We are blessed to have better options than we did just a few years ago. Wishing you continued success.

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monarch5000

Pegasys (pegylated interferon alfa-2a) was available 18 years ago. Intron-A (interferon alfa-2b) was available 44 years ago and Roferon-A (interferon alfa-2a) 38 years ago.

In the 1980's and 1990's Dr.'s Harriet Gilbert and Richard Silver conducted studies that found Intron was helpful in PV and ET. In the late 1990's and 2000's Hans Hasselbalch in Denmark found the same, plus discovered it could induce a state of Minimal Residual Disease in a subset of PV patients: pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/220...

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GardNerd in reply to monarch5000

I know it’s not helpful, because I can’t change the past — but I’m ticked off at my initial doctor for not talking to me about this. And he was at Stanford! I didn’t know about MPN specialists, etc. Now I do, thanks to this site.

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Scaredy_cat

This was a fascinating account, extremely well written.

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GardNerd in reply to Scaredy_cat

Thank you. With the allele burden decrease, I figured it was a good time to share. Thank you for your helpful shares here.

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ainslie

great result for you , congratulations on also getting rid of the itch monster because for a minority the inf’s can make itch worse

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Manouche in reply to ainslie

Indeed, interferon made it worse for me , but temporarily and before it disappeared totally after 1 year or so.

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DiveGoddess

GardNerd,

Such great news! Thanks for sharing your update. You taking time to write helps so much. I started Besremi 1.5 years ago, couldn’t tolerate high dose, but am hopeful it will help with Jak2. Thanks and stay strong!

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SouthSideA

This is very helpful. I'm 43 years-old, was diagnosed six months ago, and have asked my doctor to allow me to switch from hydroxyurea to Besremi. I'm hopeful it is effective. Thank you for sharing your experience and good luck!

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GardNerd in reply to SouthSideA

I hope you’ll feel comfortable sharing here about how things go for you. Your comments the other day were part of what moved me to say more about my journey on Besremi. I’m disappointed in the doctor I was seeing when first diagnosed — that he never gave me details on the interferon option. I think if I’d waited too much longer, it may have been too late for it to make a difference.

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C_Anne_Orange

Thank you for a wonderful and encouraging chronology! I am 1 1/2 half years in on Besremi - at 450 mcg and platelets are good but HCT is still a little high at 45-43, had to have a partial Phlebotomy yesterday - but your history is so affirming and assures me that I have to keep going and be patient! Will check my allele burden in December 🤞. Best news was about the NO itching - looking forward to that day! THANK YOU for sharing your story!

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GardNerd in reply to C_Anne_Orange

It sounds like you’re tolerating the higher dose, which is great. I had three phlebotomies in that first year being on Besremi. It sounds like you’re almost there with the HCT. Good luck!

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C_Anne_Orange in reply to GardNerd

Thank you and best of luck to you too!

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MrsBerri

Thank you GardNerd for sharing! I was diagnosed at age 55, 2 years ago, and started on Besremi in December 2022. I did extremely poor with phlebotomies (I have no veins) and I was glad there was an interferon treatment instead of being on HU long-term. I have also tolerated it well. My doctor checked my Allelle Burden last in August 2023; said it went from 11% to 1.7% - not sure I believe her, but I am fine with the information for now. We decided that I should continue taking Besremi for at least 2 years; she said there is not enough data yet to determine the long term outcome of this medication. I have been at 350mg since April 2023 and things seem to be going in the right direction. I had all the same symptoms as you but feel good. I am grateful that my insurance covered this medication.

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GardNerd in reply to MrsBerri

It sounds like you’re on an excellent path! I’m very happy for you. And jealous of your allele burden. 😉

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Aldebaran25

I enjoyed reading your post, thank you for sharing the good news! I am on Besremi myself with a high allele burden like yours was initially. Glad it has worked well for you.

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GardNerd in reply to Aldebaran25

And I hope the Besremi is working to reduce your allele burden, too. 🤞🙏

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