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Weekly Chat May 10th-16th 🌄 Hilly ponderings

roseabi profile image
roseabiPartner

Hey champs!

How's it all going? Give us the gossip in the comments 😊😊😊

I am coming to the end of my half marathon plan with Garmin Coach Jeff Galloway, which has given me some crazy 800m speed repeats workouts (I'm getting SIXTEEN INTERVALS this week!!!), and some bizarrely long runs (I got 31.5 KM last week!!!). What is Jeff trying to do to me?

Anyway, I don't really mind. I haven't actually got an official half marathon until Oxford in October, but I do have the hilly Grand Tour of Skiddaw ultramarathon in August, so I have been making the most of my long runs up on the South Downs. There aren't many finer things in life I reckon!

It does occur to me, though, that my South Downs runs, lovely as they are, do not come close to the elevation I'll encounter up in the English Lake District. So I've been considering some big hill repeat sessions, and pushing harder uphill. And a few Freddie Mercury poses at the end will obviously be a great help 😁 (why no Freddie emoji??)

Are you wondering how you're going to tackle a project at the moment? Any other ideas for me? Do you love hills? I do!

As always, if you're new here, or just browsing through the community posts, this is a great place to introduce yourself and let us know how you are doing. You’ll find plenty of support and knowledge from your fellow runners here.

And have a fabulous week!

The Marathon Team xxx

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misswobble profile image
misswobbleMarathon

Good going shug! Onwards and upwards 👍.

Long, steep hills are a pig for sure but they’re there to be climbed. I try and zone out I can’t run them at any speed now though, so am content just to set my gear and go for the steady ascent. If I can gather speed once at the crest I think it’s a good job done 💪👍🏃‍♀️

I also select my hill running music, which invariably involves Zep ğŸ˜ƒğŸŽ¶ğŸŽµ. “Valhalla I am comin-ggggggg”. It always makes me titter 😁

roseabi profile image
roseabiPartner in reply to misswobble

Good old Zep! Did I ever tell you that, back in the 70s/80s, Robert Plant was a regular customer at my parents-in-law's fish & chip shop?

misswobble profile image
misswobbleMarathon in reply to roseabi

I love them! I would have loved to have seen the live. Robert with his tousled curls blowing and his bare chest and flowery shirt 😃. My house rocked to Zep. My brother was crazy about them. Their music and lyrics are great for long runs. I love when the Levee Breaks 😃. Kashmir makes me laugh 😆

Zep, along with the likes of Black Sabbath, we’re jobbing musicians but crikey they were good

Did your in-laws give him free fish bits? Or scraps as they’re called down south 😃

roseabi profile image
roseabiPartner in reply to misswobble

I'm not sure they knew who he was 😂 I don't think he'd have accepted freebies though - he's a top bloke I hear! 😍

misswobble profile image
misswobbleMarathon in reply to roseabi

I always got free fish bits and I was a nobody. Still am 😆

So pleased to hear he’s a good un. His sidekick was a bit dodge ğŸ˜Ž

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SkiMondayMarathon in reply to misswobble

When the Levee Breaks is one of my favourite tracks but I'd almost stop if I tried to synch to that. I've found the odd Rammstein track that works and a cover of Paranoid by Wheezer also. Some Budgie tracks are great to stomp along to (sorry, tread lightly to) but their time signature tends to change in the middle. Tried a few Motorhead ones, but my feet won't move that fast!

misswobble profile image
misswobbleMarathon in reply to SkiMonday

I’ve not got any Motörhead 😃. I’ve got Paranoid which is fab. The Who’s “Baba O’Riley has a fast instrumental section that’s awesome 💪🌪.

Budgie! As in Adam Faith? 😀. He was great 🙂. I’ve got on vinyl his “Message to Martha”

SkiMonday profile image
SkiMondayMarathon in reply to misswobble

That's Budgie as in the hard rock power trio. I tend to use tracks from the Power Supply album (which I ended up buying on CD because its not available on Deezer). The only track that a lot of people know is Breadfan because it was covered by a US outfit called Metallica.

misswobble profile image
misswobbleMarathon in reply to misswobble

Speaking of Valhalla ğŸŽ¶ğŸŽµ. I see I can get Valhalla sunglasses 🕶. Oooh I just might ğŸ˜Ž

Smile23 profile image
Smile23Half Marathon in reply to misswobble

Rock and roll and paranoid top tunes for getting up hills in my eyes😂closely followed by whole lotta love ğŸŽ¸

misswobble profile image
misswobbleMarathon in reply to Smile23

For sure! 💪👍😃

My mother bought Paranoid single and it’s still with me I love my vinyl 🥰

A long run has to feature Zep! Running up long hills needs the right thrum and for me it’s “Kashmir” 🏃‍♀️🏃‍♀️🏃‍♀️🏃‍♀️🏃‍♀️

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BrianUKHalf Marathon

I have been meaning to get back to the downs Roseabi and now you’ve reminded me, I think I’m going to go again this week if the weather allows it. Not doing wind and rain at the moment 😅😂.There’s a beast of a 10 mile run that I’ve done a couple of times from Ditchling Beacon to Lewes and back that had my chin on my knees at a couple of points. I may punish myself with that one again as I’ve avoided hill runs recently and need to up my strength game.

Good luck with your ongoing training with Jeff. I’m sure it will really help as you prepare for your Lake District Ultra. 👍

roseabi profile image
roseabiPartner in reply to BrianUK

It's so beautiful up there, every time I get onto the Downs I say Wow!!!

That 10 miler sounds good!!

Thank you xxx

Tbae profile image
TbaeMetric Marathon

Love your plans roseabi.No goss.🙈😂

Hills how long have you got.?

Tackling a project yes.Crunching a M &Ultra.I have you to thank roseabi.

Will duck and dive going forward.

Two runs only per week.All long one paced easy.

You have all the ideas, experience and knowledge.

Two questions please roseabi,

If your only option was one single type of run, which one gives you the biggest bang for your buck, biggest contribution to your overall fitness?

Not a medic, but do we all have different repair powers and abilities to adapt/build quicker while avoiding injury?

You have a fabulous week also roseabi.

🏃‍♀️🌟💫⚡️👏👏

roseabi profile image
roseabiPartner in reply to Tbae

Thank you Tbae!! xxx

Wow, those are tricky questions, I will have a think - feel free to remind me!!

Off the top of my head, though, I'd say that slow-ish hilly runs could be the answer to both, although speaking personally (and I'm not unusual) I find hills tough on the backs of my legs - I have to keep strong awareness of glutes, hamstrings, calves, and Achilles tendons, and rein back if needed.

All the best for your new training plan - isn't it lovely to have a new training plan??!? 😍

Tbae profile image
TbaeMetric Marathon in reply to roseabi

You are just a star roseabi.🏃‍♀️🌟My personal interest is very narrow.

A new training plan is like finding a honey pot on my journey roseabi.

Pairing things back with your help has put me back on the road with renewed vigour.

Application of your chunking strategy, flat routes only, long easy runs only ( max fitness return).

This is all gut feeling stuff from me roseabi.If I can experience my M and U and that feeling in a 17 hour day, that is job done for me.

Doing it continuously maybe possible.Never say never.

Thank you roseabi.

🏃‍♀️🌟👏👏💪🙏💫⚡️

misswobble profile image
misswobbleMarathon in reply to roseabi

I agree with Roseabi but the undulations on the hilly trails play havoc with my hips on long runs. It cd be glute strength, or rather lack of ☺️

David_G profile image
David_GHalf Marathon

Hi roseabi and running friends, hope you’re all out there having fun!🏃‍♂️🏃‍♀️Sadly I’ve picked up an injury to my left calf/achilles which has put me out of action running-wise since last week. It’s getting better but I’m not running on it until it’s fully better. It’s so frustrating now the better weather seems to be arriving and lockdown is coming towards an end!😡 I might see if I can find a sports physio if the problem persists 🙂👍

I’ve got a motorbike -riding/running/hiking holiday booked in Derbyshire in a couple of weeks so I want to be fit for that.

In the meantime I’ll be reading posts on here and following my running chums on Strava so I won’t feel too left out!ğŸ˜ŠğŸ¤ž

cheekychipmunks profile image
cheekychipmunksHalf Marathon in reply to David_G

Nooo David! That’s such a shame. Was it a running-induced injury? Hopefully you’ve caught it early and you can be back on your running feet soon. ğŸ¤ž

David_G profile image
David_GHalf Marathon in reply to cheekychipmunks

Thanks Cheekychipmunks, I think it was probably running-induced but never mind. I’ll just be very careful when I restart I think. I probably need to stretch more before and after my runs too. Schoolboy error on my part!

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Oldgirlruns in reply to David_G

Oh no David! I hope that wasn’t anything we did to you last week when you visited us?!

David_G profile image
David_GHalf Marathon in reply to Oldgirlruns

Thanks OldGirlRuns, it might well be because I didn’t stretch properly after I ran. I had a bit of a niggle before I started so maybe I should have walked a bit!

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Oldgirlruns in reply to David_G

Oh dear! I hope you feel better soon!

David_G profile image
David_GHalf Marathon in reply to Oldgirlruns

Thanks, it feels better every day so I’m sure it’ll be fine again soon!

Dexy5 profile image
Dexy510 Miles in reply to David_G

Oh no David, so sorry to hear that. Rest is definitely required! Is it the Soleus muscle (lower calf)? If so, I can send you some exercises that my physio gave me when I suffered from an over enthusiastic parkrun in my post graduation days.

ğŸ¤žyou are fit for your holiday

David_G profile image
David_GHalf Marathon in reply to Dexy5

Thanks Dexy5! It might well be the soleus, so I’d appreciate it if you could send the exercises👍 Thanks for your help!👏👏

roseabi profile image
roseabiPartner in reply to David_G

Oh no! Heal soon xxx

misswobble profile image
misswobbleMarathon in reply to David_G

Ey up! 👋 If you take your motor bike to Matlock Bath to hang out with the bikers on the main drag (If it’s allowed that is), you’ll not be far from the running shop, Runforest 🙂. It’s above Greggs, in Crown Square in Matlock town centre.

Take great care on the notorious Thirteen Bends near Bakewell !

The Tissington and Monsal trails are fab for running/walking/cycling.

Have fun 🙂

David_G profile image
David_GHalf Marathon in reply to misswobble

Thanks misswobble, that’s great! Expect to see some posts on here about my adventures. The leg’s feeling a bit better so it should be ready to run again by the time I’m on holiday!ğŸ™‚ğŸ¤ž

misswobble profile image
misswobbleMarathon in reply to David_G

Yes let’s hope so. I hope you get some good weather. Mind you bad weather deters many day trippers The runners and walkers will still be there though 🙂

David_G profile image
David_GHalf Marathon in reply to misswobble

You’re right, I’ll be out there no matter what the weather’s doing! 😀👍

misswobble profile image
misswobbleMarathon in reply to David_G

Just keep a weather eye out if you’re walking in the bleaker parts. Know how to get back to civilisation if the weather closes in or if it drops dark I got caught out by sudden dark descending when on a high ridge heading for the car park No torch 🙈. A Walker coming towards us out of the gathering gloom said he heard our stumbling about and swearing ☺️

David_G profile image
David_GHalf Marathon in reply to misswobble

Thanks, I’ll bear that in mind😀👍

nowster profile image
nowster10 Miles

The Freddie pose only works if you do it with the hand with the watch on it.

roseabi profile image
roseabiPartner in reply to nowster

Good point! xxx

Blackberrypie profile image
BlackberrypieHalf Marathon

I could have done with that tip last month as my running club were doing an elevation challenge. I managed a previously-unheard-of 2800m which was at the lower end of the top 10 so quite chuffed with that. I did sort of enjoy it though had to be careful to watch my knees going down - did a few sessions of running up and walking down the biggest local hill which feels a bit mad! Some amazing views along the way were a lovely reward for the tough climbs. And judging where I ache post-runs at the moment, all these hills really forced me to develop and use my glutes! This month we're doing a monopoly challenge involving lots of selfies outside pubs and other local landmarks - definitely keeps me heading out the door.

Other than that, I have another virtual half marathon in a fortnight's time, and have signed up for my first proper race (local HM in November). After that, I might switch to spending a bit of time focussing on speed rather than distance. We have done some faster sessions at club and I do enjoy a bit of faster running, particularly in a group. They are building up to mile and 5k challenges so hopefully it will all work well together. My heart is more in the long, steady, exploring-new-trails type of run, but obviously I can keep enjoying those too even if I'm not working on increasing distance any further at the moment.

Katnap profile image
KatnapMarathon in reply to Blackberrypie

Blimey! I'm hard pushed to find the 800m in a month! Well done Blackberrypie !

roseabi profile image
roseabiPartner in reply to Blackberrypie

Wow, awesome!!!!!

cheekychipmunks profile image
cheekychipmunksHalf Marathon

Love Freddie! He was my favourite. I still belt out Queen’s Greatest Hits in the car now. ğŸŽ¶ I love the added elevation idea! Might need to give it a go. 😂 As for hills, I love them at my pace. I have an awesome first gear which will take me up most. Snails are sprinting past, but I get there. 🐌 💥

All of a sudden I’m in excited upcoming race mode. I’m joining Dexy5, UpTheStanley and Oldgirlruns at Kempton Park this coming Saturday for the Reunion 5k (hmmm driving over 5 hours round trip for a 5k seems bonkers doesn’t it?) But that’s me! 😂

Then I’m volunteering at Eastville Junior PR on the 23rd, and on June 13th there’s the Runthrough Cheltenham Racecourse 10k to look forward to with Sandie1961, TailChaser, Katnap and Shake-and-run! That’s 2 x bling for my collection right there! 🏅🏅🏅

Happy running everyone. ❤️

AlMorr profile image
AlMorr10 Miles in reply to cheekychipmunks

Good luck CC for that Reunion 5K run at Kempton Park, I have just received an e-mail inviting me to take part, however, as it's just over 400 miles or a 7-hour car journey, one way, I am unable to go, I wish you all, the Southsea Crew and of course you a good time at Kempton Park.

cheekychipmunks profile image
cheekychipmunksHalf Marathon in reply to AlMorr

Thanks Al, it should be fun. 😀

roseabi profile image
roseabiPartner in reply to cheekychipmunks

A great way to celebrate the end of any run, I reckon!! 😊😊😊

Good luck and have loads of fun at the Reunion 5K - and thank you for taking part! Sadly it's not practical for me to go for a number of reasons xxx

misswobble profile image
misswobbleMarathon

Spurred on by your hilly musings, I ran my local hilly streets 🏃‍♀️ Playing wheelie-bin slalom. Arms up!

I got thoroughly drowned, then dried off in the sunny wind, only to get a final drenching as I approached home. Mission accomplished 💪👍😃🏃‍♀️🧢

Home to homemade bread with butter and poached eggs. Followed by one of my muffins and vat of rooibos ☕️

Going for a swift bath before going in search of a new shower mixer as mine’s bust 🛁

roseabi profile image
roseabiPartner in reply to misswobble

That just all sounds brilliant to me!!! xxx

Except for the shower mixer - did you find one?

Decker profile image
DeckerModerator

Does it work if you do the Freddy pose repeatedly up and down the hill? 😅 I’ve been doing weekly hill repeats for the last 5 or 6 week, now switching to a speed block, but the hill work seems to have helped, so I may try to include both sessions next week. Not sure if they are mutually exclusive trainings. I’m learning to almost enjoy the hill that gave me so much stress in the past. Also trying to strike a balance that does not result in injury. As for plans, I have a plan I sort of like, starting late May, but that could change too. Or I may customize it a bit. Happy running all!

roseabi profile image
roseabiPartner in reply to Decker

Yes, I'm sure it does! 😂

There's something very satisfying about hill repeats, I think!

Yay for a plan! Happy planning and running!! xxx

Irishprincess profile image
IrishprincessHalf Marathon

The plan has a 31.5K run for a HM?!!! And 16 intervals!!Blimey, remind me never to do that plan 🙀 Is the idea that the HM will feel easy peasey after that lot? Mind you, I’m sure a HM feels easy to you anyway Roseabi compared to some other runs you do 💪

I saw Freddie at Wembley in 1986 and even then I knew I was watching something historic. His voice was amazing, the atmosphere was electric and when he hit those high notes, my mouth literally fell open 😲 He certainly knew how to put on a show. An absolutely amazing experience.

My running is going well. I got another 11 mile run done in Ireland, I’m back now and will go for 11-12.5 miles this week. I’m just deciding which day 🤔

Most of my runs have hills and no matter how I plan things I usually end up with a ruddy hill at the end 🙄 But I really need to get back to the 1:4 gradient hill we used at running club, it was a 🤬 but great training.

Have a great week everyone x

roseabi profile image
roseabiPartner in reply to Irishprincess

My plan is based on a specific time goal, which may have something to do with the relatively hard workouts - dunno!

Freddie was so amazing 😍😍😍

Good stuff, IP xxx

Sandie1961 profile image
Sandie1961Half Marathon in reply to Irishprincess

I saw Queen at Wembley in 1986 too. Amazing! What was not so amazing was getting lost on the North Circular before driving all the way back to Cumbria after it. Oh the joy of youth!

Irishprincess profile image
IrishprincessHalf Marathon in reply to Sandie1961

Just think Sandie, we could have passed each other in the crowd…. Six degrees of separation at its best 🙂

Sandie1961 profile image
Sandie1961Half Marathon in reply to Irishprincess

We could indeed 😄

Cmoi profile image
CmoiMetric Marathon

Using your skill and judgement, please choose the appropriate answer(s) to complete this well known phrase: "The hills are alive with the sound of ... "

A - Music (I'm attempting to sing while running)

B - Cursing (I've been pushing the hydration pack mouthpiece thingy the wrong way)

C - Cheery greetings to lots of animals and occasional humans (I'm sure all appreciate it)

That was me during my supposedly 12 mile (19.33k) long run yesterday. Thanks to my inability to find the paths back, it ended up 5k longer, and elevation gain came in at 667m.

My plan told me to do a 40-minute hilly run today, but work and curfew made that impossible. Hoping to catch up tomorrow!

Happy ⛰️ hilly ⛰️ running, all!

roseabi profile image
roseabiPartner in reply to Cmoi

All of the above! 😂😂😂

Good luck and have fun xxx

RunWillie profile image
RunWillie10 Miles

Hi roseabi

Wow! I’m so in awe of your ultra running abilities. Think I could manage a half marathon only presently with all my other life commitments! I’m certainly not tempted to be doing Jeff’s HM plan by the sound of it.

I’m in the process of my first 100 mile month questing over on the bridge with the Kats. I did my longest run week of 40k and can still walk so that’s a bonus 🤣

Oh and these beauties arrived ❤️🏃‍♀️

Katnap profile image
KatnapMarathon in reply to RunWillie

Niiiicce... 😃👍

roseabi profile image
roseabiPartner in reply to RunWillie

I think my specific time goal makes for harder workouts, but I know that Jeff tends to include longer runs because of the run-walk-run aspect. Not that I'm really doing that myself 😂

Wowsers, I love those colours! Happy new shoes!!! xxx

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RunWillie10 Miles in reply to roseabi

You’re just awesome roseabi 🥰

Those colours are quite something. Think I had a track suit in a similar shade as a child in the eighties. Don’t know why we can’t have the same colour options as the blokes get. Oh well. I best run fast so I don’t blind anyone passing me 🤣

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Dexy510 Miles

I confess I usually avoid hills at all costs but we have a close by parkrun route at Queen Elizabeth Country Park , also South Downs. It is one of the steepest in the country and as we are going to have a Parkrun meet up there one day ğŸ¤ž, I did give it a try with UpTheStanley last month - walk/run definitely needed there. For me anyway.

So I have pledged to do a bit of hill work twice a month. Last week it was a route up and down the inclines around Southsea Castle. Ooh my glutes, ooh my knees the day after. This was probably made worse by the fact I had finally got around to doing some strengthening exercises the day before! I will keep trying though. I am in awe of you hill runners. Skiddaw? Greatest Respect .

I’m anxiously awaiting Portsmouth City Council to grant permission for return of our parkrun. Our next nearest one is approved but would be totally overwhelmed if Southsea runners turned up on the first day.

I’m very excited about the reunion 5k this Saturday. How lovely to be able to run in a normal race, and be a part of helping to bring back mass participation events. Looking forward to meeting up with cheeky too. It’s been too long.

roseabi profile image
roseabiPartner in reply to Dexy5

Good luck with them there hills!!

Thank you for joining the Reunion 5K xxx

Dexy5 profile image
Dexy510 Miles in reply to roseabi

Ooh you couldn’t keep me away 😂.

Smile23 profile image
Smile23Half Marathon

Morning all

Omg roseabi. That training plan would be too much for me😳my inexperienced legs and brain could only follow the more gentle coach Greg variant on Garmin.

Seem to be picking up niggley injuries atm since my one and only HM.

Sore outer ankle, loss of a toenail 😡etc. So have had an easy couple of weeks with a couple of 5ks.

Need to get back on my A-game tho.

5 weeks till the Sunderland HM.

I am aiming for 3 runs per week with a long Sunday run and taper off the week before.

Happy Wednesday all x

roseabi profile image
roseabiPartner in reply to Smile23

Hope you feel better! xxx

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