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Weekly chatty chat 9th to the 15th of April :)

ju-ju-
ju-ju-Administrator

Hello everybody and welcome to a new week...

Sometimes we don't feel like putting a whole post up but just want to share something small, so this is a great place for doing that during the week. It's fabulous to see everyone's training updates each week!

If you're new or a lurker this is a great place to say a little hi without the pressure of a full post.

Let us know how your training, running, racing is going - did you try something you haven’t before? Got a new PB? Got some gossip to share ? Tell us about it here....

Have a wonderful week, and happy Panthering,

Ju-Ju, Rignold, and roseabi

xxx

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ju-ju-
ju-ju-Administrator

I am fed up as I have a niggly achilles so only doing 1 milers, and my push up training has gone weak. Tomorrow is a new day... right?

roseabi
roseabiAdministrator in reply to ju-ju-

Absolutely!

ju-ju-
ju-ju-Administrator in reply to roseabi

:)

misswobble
misswobbleMarathon in reply to ju-ju-

Aw ruddy eck! Gently dyes it Ju Ju and you’ll push through. I had a twangy Achilles during my marathon training and was worried about it but it just got better. It must have just got stronger 💪

ju-ju-
ju-ju-Administrator in reply to misswobble

I think everything has got a bit tight as I have been a lapse roller....

misswobble
misswobbleMarathon in reply to ju-ju-

My fella at the gym got the dreaded foam roller out at the gym post half mara the other week. I wouldn’t have 😁

roseabi
roseabiAdministrator in reply to misswobble

Me too. I have been doing some pretty rad self-massage techniques, which I can't for the life of me find the links to. Basically they involve rubbing really hard with your thumb across the Achilles, and then up/down on either side of it, and also getting both thumbs into the back of the calf muscles between the two gastrocnemius heads and working all the way down from below the knee to the ankle. Pressing really hard so it bloody hurts!

Not sure if this is a good idea, but my Achilles is much better these days. Also have been doing eccentric heel dips twice a day religiously for a few months now, so it could be that. Or it could just have strengthened with exercise as you said, mw :)

misswobble
misswobbleMarathon in reply to roseabi

I found a gastroc stretch on google Lovely it is

When I had my shin splint the only cure was exercise. The slow calf raise - going as high up as poss - then the slowwwwwww lower into the heel drop, going down slowwwwwly Excellent stuff Foot raises too I couldn’t do a foot raise at all Try it 😃

roseabi
roseabiAdministrator in reply to misswobble

I'm definitely adding those! Ta :)

misswobble
misswobbleMarathon in reply to roseabi

You can experiment with distance from the wall. Keep your shoulders and butt firmly against the wall

I had a fab strength session at the gym yesterday. I was working harder than the adjacent pro footballers. Wimps 😁

misswobble
misswobbleMarathon

New day, new week, new plan! Just printed off a new crisp, shiny, clean 10k plan for a hilly race on 13th May (Holymoorside 10k) roseabi 😃.

Doing the fitness challenge thrown down by Rig and am headed out now

💪🏃‍♀️🏃‍♀️🏃‍♀️ Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeha 😃

roseabi
roseabiAdministrator in reply to misswobble

Noted :)

DiveMonkey
DiveMonkeyMarathon in reply to misswobble

Good luck for the new training plan! I am also doing a hilly 10k on the 13th May :) (Slave Route Challenge). What training plan are you following? I have just used MyAsics plan

misswobble
misswobbleMarathon in reply to DiveMonkey

Yup, myasics too 💪👍😃

C3PO
C3POVirtual HM

I'm finally tapering!

In other news, I was parkrun Director last week, and our run finally went ahead, after 3 weeks of deplorable conditions. We got lots of runners, so people clearly missed us. Will do a last spot of fundraising this Saturday, spurred on by eldest child, who will be baking and handling the money. But I've seen through his plan. He's doing this so he doesn't have to run.

Lordi
LordiMarathon in reply to C3PO

Spring has sprung here in Finland! I actually went outside without a hat and gloves today! No more bat cave for me (until late november that is)!

C3PO
C3POVirtual HM in reply to Lordi

I know. Isn't it great? I actually ran without a jacket yesterday. Buff and hat were on, though. The downside is that spring means hay fever for me...

misswobble
misswobbleMarathon

Oh cheeky monkey! Sounds an enterprising lad! Bakes too!

Sinross
SinrossHalf Marathon

Hi! I had a great time at Parkrun. I was in pain with my calf so I was in full hunch-mode when a kind runner stopped and offered to coach me round! He gave me a load of tips about running that really helped.

I'm going out this evening to see if I can make them part of my running without having to think about it.

misswobble
misswobbleMarathon in reply to Sinross

Brill! That’s the spirit of Parkrun 😃👍

roseabi
roseabiAdministrator in reply to Sinross

Hello! Welcome to the forum :)

Let us know how you got on!

Sinross
SinrossHalf Marathon in reply to roseabi

thanks! I got on OK, it's so hard to keep your head up when you're used to looking down, but I noticed how open my chest & breathing felt. Going out again tonight so I'm sure I can make these adjustments into habit now.

roseabi
roseabiAdministrator in reply to Sinross

Great stuff! I'm sure you can too.

Lordi
LordiMarathon

This week 5k jog, 12 fast, 5 jog, 12 fast, then "race simulation" next week on my Asics plan. No way I'm going to run 18km next week at even the minimum suggested Asics pace! An interesting few weeks before taper for 19 May HM (Helsinki HM).

Never seem to do the prescribed kms though, always some weird combination and a rush of blood to the head.

misswobble
misswobbleMarathon in reply to Lordi

No way? Why’s that then? Injury? Saving yourself? Can’t be arsed? 😁. A race pace 18k is no walk in the park but I think the thought of it is worse than the reality.

I did my 18kms in vile weather and just wanted them over so I went as fast as I could 🙂

Lordi
LordiMarathon in reply to misswobble

18k at 5:14 is my Asics plan suggestion but it's odd because up to now the fastest training has been at 5:40. Did a 10k at 5:50 last Sunday but a whole 35s/km and 18km seems like a stretch...We will see.

misswobble
misswobbleMarathon in reply to Lordi

Yeah just head out and see how it goes. You never know do you

Have you looked at your plan to check the projected finish time at the top of the plan with the finish time given for the event. Mine were different and the race time was faster 🤨? Weird

Lordi
LordiMarathon in reply to misswobble

I plugged in my best 5k time way back and the Asics plan returned 01:48:00 as a target HM time! These's no way I will run that but I've tried to stick to the plan to develop my pace and so ensure I can get as close as I can to a 2hr time. Getting under 5:40 and being able to keep it up for 21k is the real goal right now as that will get me close to 2hrs. If I can run the 18k simulation next week under 6:00 I'd be very happy. If not then maybe race day adrenalin will help me get a good first HM time closer to 2hrs than I'd imagined.

misswobble
misswobbleMarathon in reply to Lordi

We can only do our best. Race day is an unknown quantity but hopefully things will go to plan. Try and keep your shape when you feel yourself getting tired. I haul myself up and run tall when I feel I have hit a slump

If you’ve done the training it could go better than planned. It depends on the course 🙂

roseabi
roseabiAdministrator in reply to Lordi

Run, Forrest!! :)

Lordi
LordiMarathon in reply to roseabi

I actually came across some Bubba Gump caps recently and was tempted to buy one for the running!

benwill
benwillMarathon

Fed up, bored of running, never want to run again, legs hurt, when will it end, grumble grumble, can i ride my bike now?

that is all.

roseabi
roseabiAdministrator in reply to benwill

You can ride your bike on Monday :)

benwill
benwillMarathon in reply to roseabi

Ha i think I will be staying in bed on Monday!

Anniemurph
AnniemurphHalf Marathon

I went to my first ballet class for thirty-five years. It is a gentle class for aged persons. OMG!!! :O My glutes, thighs and core are still twanging :D Seriously, though, the turnout required (which I can't do enough) and the effort required to point the toes properly are good exercises for runners - I can feel it in my hips and calves.

misswobble
misswobbleMarathon in reply to Anniemurph

Well done Murph 👍 it’s super tough is ballet I think some of the moves are good for footballers too My late aunt used to be President of the Ballet Dance Teachers Assoc. i idolised her 🙂

Anniemurph
AnniemurphHalf Marathon in reply to misswobble

Wow, how fab! Yes, I adored (and was terrified of) my ballet teacher, who also taught me swimming and elocution. A very strict lady, but wonderfully eccentric.

Ballet is hard! Tai chi was difficult to remember but easier physically.

misswobble
misswobbleMarathon in reply to Anniemurph

We had a very scary swimming teacher but she was great and constantly made us race each other. We always thought it was fun despite her growling and being fierce. We never talked to her. We never got the chance 😁

roseabi
roseabiAdministrator in reply to Anniemurph

Kudos! I'm a long-time fan of barre workouts meself, but I'm keeping it in from of the tv or "other device" :)

Anniemurph
AnniemurphHalf Marathon in reply to roseabi

This was a very relaxed class. I enjoyed it and I'll definitely go again :)

Still aching from Sunday's Sheffield Half, but am going to run tonight with my club and hope it's not too painful! I would usually do a hilly route but not sure if the memories from Sunday are still too strong..! Think I'll be scheduling a meeting with my foam roller shortly after.

misswobble
misswobbleMarathon in reply to WeezeMcCheese

Sheff is all darned hills 😁. Good training though and it makes Sheffield runners so kick ass. When Totley and Steel City folks pitch up it makes me want to give up and go home 😁👍🏃‍♀️

WeezeMcCheese
WeezeMcCheeseMarathon in reply to misswobble

Ha, you're not wrong! As tough as it was, I would actually love to have so many hills around where I live, I'm in North London so we have a couple (Muswell Hill, Highgate Hill) but nothing on the scale of Sheffers. I'm tempted to sign up again for next year, now I know how treacherous it actually is for those first 5 miles.

Langley-Loper
Langley-LoperHalf Marathon

I'm entering the "Getting Faster" phase of My Asics HM plan this week which is a huge relief as I was unable to run slow enough in the "Preconditioning" phase last week. Intended to do 5 miles today but supported a friend by accompanying her on C25k W5R3 instead (the jump to 20 minutes). I learnt I can run r-e-a-l-l-y s-l-o-w after all (she only has little legs).

misswobble
misswobbleMarathon in reply to Langley-Loper

Oh I love the really slow phase, and savour it as I know it’s not going to last. All too soon it ramps up

roseabi
roseabiAdministrator in reply to Langley-Loper

Yay for getting faster!

misswobble
misswobbleMarathon in reply to roseabi

Oh eck! I have a note that says you really must excuse me 🤒😷🤧🤮🤕🤢🤤

🙏

😁

Decker
DeckerModerator

Into the race simulation phase of Asics now, so have done 18 on Sat and a slow 5 this morn. Supposed to do 12 tomorrow, but I learned my lesson last week and moved it to Thursday. 🙂 I realized I need a rest day before the longer fast runs. Then there is another 18 coming this Saturday. Had some pain in my hip to kneecap. Rolled it for a bit and seems to have sorted.

misswobble
misswobbleMarathon in reply to Decker

I shunt the runs around sometimes. If you have any niggles then go steady 👍

roseabi
roseabiAdministrator in reply to Decker

Fingers crossed!

Decker
DeckerModerator in reply to roseabi

So far so good

Joruss
JorussMarathon

This time next week I’m doing a marathon. Yikes

Only ever trained in cool weather and it looks like it’s going to be warm.

. I’m already slow , proper plodder and I reckon it will take me 6 hrs 30 ish to get round.

Any advice - obviously plenty of fluids

roseabi
roseabiAdministrator in reply to Joruss

A peaked cap, and #DrinkDrainDrop some of the water into it occasionally to cool your head :)

misswobble
misswobbleMarathon

Oooooh yikes indeed 😁. after recommendation from a kind lady here I bought a mixed box of Tailwind. It’s a complete drink in powder form which you add to a 600 ml bottle I couldn’t find one so mixed it in 600 ml of water and then decanted it into a 500 ml bottle. It’s a complete drink/food so you don’t need to eat. I did though as veg choc brownies were available 😁 I took two drinks bottles with me and three sachets of tailwind There are several flavours and the one I opted for was fine and not sweet. I had never used it before, which I know is not ideal but I was fine with it It contains about 200 cals per sachet i think

I did my first marathon in a gnat’s under six hours. I went steady to make sure I finished. It was very cold 😬❄️

I’m doing it again so it didn’t put me off 😃👍🏃‍♀️

roseabi
roseabiAdministrator

Well, now I'm in possession of medical and sports massage verdicts it seems there's nothing much wrong with me, just that the soleuses and Achilleses are apparently VERY tight, and especially on the offending leg.

I guess I'll probably show up for Brighton after all, still got a couple of days to make up my mind. At least if I have to dnf it I won't be too far from home :)

Alternatively, we've just got a VR helmet for the Playstation, so I could just disappear into a world of hyper-reality instead...

roseabi
roseabiAdministrator in reply to roseabi

... and my t-shirt transfer name just arrived!

C3PO
C3POVirtual HM in reply to roseabi

I second misswobble. It's meant to be!

roseabi
roseabiAdministrator in reply to C3PO

Thank you :)

benwill
benwillMarathon in reply to roseabi

Can I stop halfway and have a play?

roseabi
roseabiAdministrator in reply to benwill

Ooh, that's a thought!

misswobble
misswobbleMarathon

Oh that’s that then. Game on! 👍.

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