new symptoms?

[suzannah16]

just surfing the webby and saw a post on new CV symptoms. mental fatigue as well as normal fatigue and sore eyes. and guess what? diarrhoea, so maybe those who stock pile loo rolls were right. the rest just sounds like a normal lupus day.

[eekt]

The Germans - who seemed to have cracked testing as their number of cases, while high, also includes very mild ones and their percentage of unfortunates is the lowest in the world - have these symptoms on their state broadcasters website:

dw.com/en/coronavirus-sympt...

Stay safe xxxx

[Hidden in reply to eekt]

I was just making that point about the German cases to someone. 👏Thank You!

[eekt in reply to Hidden]

Merkel was so calm and well-slept in her address to the nation (in complete contrast to our Prime Minister at his first Covid press conference LOL!) because she knew everything is hand....Germany is even taking in cases from Italy and France! 👏👏👏xxx

[Hidden in reply to eekt]

Go Germans!!! (And share the reason of your success with us, please🙏)

[MrsMouseSJ in reply to eekt]

Yep, I watched it too. See my earlier comments re the difference in the way our two countries 'do business'...

[MrsMouseSJ in reply to eekt]

Having spent over two years living in Germany in the nineties, I can't say I'm surprised that the Germans are organised in all of this.

As usual, the UK govts are left scrabbling about - a legacy of our chronic underfunding of health services, virology testing, etc. I do hope that one good thing to come of all of this is that we in the UK look long and hard at what and where we are putting our money - and how much we should be investing.

[eekt in reply to MrsMouseSJ]

Yes, you're absolutely right, re-prioritising required. Tribute being paid to cleaners in Parliament as I write.

The German health care system is superb! xxx

[MrsMouseSJ in reply to eekt]

It sure is! But they fund it properly. I paid a huge amount each month for my health insurance. But, if you get true quality when you use the system, then people are ok with that. That's not to talk down the many dedicated staff supporting the UK system. It's just that the system doesn't support them. And it should.

[eekt in reply to MrsMouseSJ]

I started on private healthcare in Berlin (didn't know any better LOL!) then switched to Technikerkrankenkasse, which was about £40 a month...and was astounded by both! Walk-in appointments to suit working lives, immediate referrals...as in 'go for a CT'...me 'when?'.....'well, now of course!'...….plus the GP I saw sent me for a scan because she wanted to rule out...……………..SLE!

Perhaps the UK govt now realises massive underinvestment in the NHS is a Bad Idea! xxx

[MrsMouseSJ in reply to eekt]

I was self employed and with the AOK. Cost me the, then, equivalent of £150 pcm and this was the mid nineties.

I didn't have to use the system much at all - but when I did I was bowled over by how quickly an appointment would come through e.g. within a couple of days. I once had to wait two weeks to see a cardiologist and when I got to see her she offered profuse apologies that my appt had taken so long to come through! I told her that a) on the NHS I most likely would never have been referred to a cardiologist b) if I had been, then I would have waited months and months and months. She looked suitably appalled!

A German dermatologist took one look at a dark mole and removed it the next day. The same that the NHS for several years had just dismissed. Whilst it wasn't cancerous, there was cell change.

An orthopaedic surgeon, to whom my German GP referred me on the back of years of previously unexplored back pain, thoroughly examined me, then took x rays. Turns out I have a slight scoliosis of the lower spine and one of my upper vertebrae is slightly twisted, probably a legacy of a teenage horse riding accident. He then sent me for various potential treatments, to see which one suited me the best.

Oh, and I loved that going to the gynae for a smear was an annual event and that she would look at some of the smear under her microscope first, show me, and then send stuff off to the lab. She also said that it has to be the same lab used each time and that each smear should be compared against the previous year/s, to properly detect any early change.

So I owe the German health system quite a bit!

[eekt in reply to MrsMouseSJ]

msn.com/en-gb/news/coronavi...

xxx

[MrsMouseSJ in reply to eekt]

Yup... A good friend is a retired virologist. He was telling me a couple of days back about the chronic public underfunding/scaling down of virology services in the UK over the past decade. He said we now no longer have the capacity, etc, to keep on top of things as Germany has done.