Low Carb Bread

[Aussie64]

Just starting out on this low carb journey, not keto but attempting to keep carbs below 30gm a day, I find breakfast hardest as I work night duty so by 8am I'm pretty hungry, I enjoyed bacon and egg (who doesn't) but miss having a piece of toast. Found this bread in Aldi and at 2.5gm per slice I thought it was a good option, am I undoing my hard work by eating it? Thanks

[Hidden]

Interesting..

I’m interested to know what others think too..

To have a slice of this occasionally would be nice 😊

[Lytham]

Ooh I've never seen that before? Looking forward to reading the answers ! x

[TheAwfulToad Ambassador]

There are various different ways you can make low-carb bread, but I'm guessing that one is textured wheat proteins (ie., gluten).

Nothing wrong with it as such. I guess the only possible problem is that you might end up using it as a crutch, ie., as something to keep you connected to your old ways of eating, which might ultimately lead back to you just throwing in the towel. My suggestion would be to stick religiously to a LCHF eating pattern for a few months, and you'll find that you can then reintroduce real bread (on occasion, in modest amounts) without any effect on your weight, or without inducing carb cravings.

I think it was Lytham who posted a recipe for homemade low-carb bread, and someone else posted a sort of biscuitty thing. Perhaps whoever it was can repost!

[Lytham in reply to TheAwfulToad]

Sorry, it wasn't me but I've found these if anyone is interested? x

healthunlocked.com/nhsweigh...

healthunlocked.com/nhsweigh...

healthunlocked.com/lchf-die...

dietdoctor.com/recipes/low-...

[Aussie64 in reply to Lytham]

Much appreciated thanks

[Lytham in reply to Aussie64]

You're welcome, hope it helps! x

[Aussie64 in reply to TheAwfulToad]

Sorry for all the questions, I also enjoy yoghurt for breakfast and have read that natural Greek yoghurt is best, with added berries maybe, so I trawled the supermarket for the lowest carb natural yoghurt and found one at 5gm Carb for the whole 170gm tub...Got it home and checked it against my fruit flavoured high protein Greek yoghurt in my fridge and exactly same carbs/sugar/fat content, so if I add frozen berries to the natural stuff isn't it then going to be higher still in carbs and sugar.... Sorry to sound thick but I'm now confused

[TheAwfulToad Ambassador in reply to Aussie64]

I wouldn't get too hung up on macronutrients - you can end up in "paralysis by analysis" situation.

The main point to understand here is that it's not carbs as such that are the issue. The goal is to elicit the smallest possible insulin response from your meals, and dialling your carbs/sugar right back just happens to be the simplest way to do that.

However ... your insulin response is a pretty complicated affair that depends on all sorts of factors. The GI (glycemic index) scale was developed as a metric for this, but once you start going down that rabbithole it all just gets ridiculously complicated, and in practical terms (ie., weightloss results) it simply isn't that critical.

So yes, if you add some berries to your yoghurt it's higher in carbs/sugar. But because those sugars are wrapped up in a whole lot of fat, your insulin response is muted. This is why low-fat diets are so disastrously bad: it's not just that they're high in carbs, but the lack of fat means that those carbs flood into your bloodstream much faster than they normally would. This has actually been demonstrated experimentally.

Enjoy your berries. I occasionally put half a teaspoon of maple syrup or a banana in my Greek yoghurt. As long as you've got more yoghurt than berries, it's fine.

I would avoid "high protein" Greek yoghurt though. It probably does have the same number of carbs, but it's had all the fat removed ... and the fat is what you want. In the UK it's explicitly marketed as low-fat, not high-protein (although in this case those descriptors are equivalent).

[Aussie64 in reply to TheAwfulToad]

"Paralysis by analysis" Love it....I have a colleague who this describes to a tee, my motto of "KISS" Keep it simple stupid is lost on them, I'm so stealing this phrase.... Need to take my own advice at the start of this journey, thanks for the reminder...

[Hidden in reply to TheAwfulToad]

I find this very helpful - the bit about adding fat to slow absorption of carbs & sugar to the blood stream. I have worked on this basis for a while so it’s good to get confirmation from Toad. My son eats a fair bit of white carbs but I aways ensure he has loads of fat with it. I never let him eat chocolate or sweets on an empty stomach & surprise surprise he does not go bonkers on sugar... I used to eat lots of complex carbs including rye bread & sour dough, which are slower to absorb. I am taking a break for a while to get more into the low carb groove but will have a slice on the odd occasion in future.

[Aussie64 in reply to Hidden]

Ditto, lots of very dense dark bread thinking I was being healthy.... I can give it up for a while see how I feel... I had cream today for first time in 5 years, so it can't be all bad.. the slow uptake of carbs in a high fat environment makes sense to me, might have a trawl through Cochrane see if I can find any further info...

[Aussie64 in reply to TheAwfulToad]

I'm going to avoid it completely for a while I think, till I get my head around this lifestyle, it still goes against all advice I've been given over the years but obviously, punishing myself, and going to bed hungry just causes me to yoyo so what have I got to lose.... I have a new GP who promotes this way of eating, also advised me to read about Ghrelin and Leptin and how they will impact on me working night duty, she's a very cluey woman. Thanks everybody for your input

[TheAwfulToad Ambassador in reply to Aussie64]

You're lucky to have a switched-on doctor! More and more of them are starting to realise that LCHF has a strong scientific rationale behind it.

[BridgeGirl]

Maybe chuck in a few mushrooms or a bit of green (spinach, broccoli, courgette) to fill out your plate and skip the bread.

I tend to agree with TheAwfulToad that it's worth making a proper break, then you're not thinking of your lchf approach as "normal" eating with a deficit. Give it a try as your new normal way of eating for good

[Aussie64]

Okay maybe I'll pass it onto my daughter, I'll go back to having a large field mushroom as the base to my bacon and egg, I've got a thing for asparagus too ATM so that's a plate filler. Cheers for the input

[AnnieW55]

From your name are you based in Australia? Only asking as I’ve seen mention of this bread previously and I’m fairly sure it is in your Aldi and not UK ones - just trying to save some disappointment for those who were going to try it. A quick check does not show it listed on the Aldi UK website.

[Aussie64 in reply to AnnieW55]

Oh yeah I am, sorry, I just assumed because it was in Aldi it would be over there too... Oops my bad

[AnnieW55 in reply to Aussie64]

No worries 😀. I would have thought the same (and I did look for it the first time a I saw it mentioned ☺️).