Apparently somewhere in my despair and wish to express disgust I have sworn in my last blog. I apologise to anyone who may have been offended by whatever word it was that had to be "asterisked out" by admin. Im not known for my inability to use the english language but as most of you will realise we are all dealing with folk and authorities who drive you to total despair and quite frankly can only be described by those words rarely used. Whatever word I used if anyone was offended I am sorry. I cant wait until Im well enough to worry about and "sweat the small stuff" again, where I will scrutinise my every thought and word. Thank you for your support, to those who have e mailed me re last blog. I do feel I have lost my will to be here, so will be calling it a day until the forseeable future. Kind of after 2 "run ins" with the powers that be on here and 2 warnings I no longer wish to feel like the bad guy and am going to give it a rest. Again apologies to all you folk whose sensitive eyes n ears I may have upset. It was not my intention. I am proud to have been able to support and help several members in a personal way offering them my wisdom on matters through experience. I would like to re state it has never been my intention to upset anyone, sell anyone anything or promote any one or anything other than share my experience and wisdom. As I dont want to sweat the small stuff or upset anyone..... so "so long, live well and find pain free peace".
Several members have my e mail and even my telephone number, so I guess at least I have connected to a few folk.
If I ever write again it will be in a PM as that feels better
Nordic
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I cannot find anything in your earlier blog that is offensive.
In fact, it amazes me how well you have done to keep it clean after the awful recent events - I hope your son will soon be better and your poor cat.
It is vital that you stay on this site we care, we understand and here you can vent how you feel - maybe substitute a few asterisks if you can; but often in despair or other deep feelings things get sent on in the need for someone to know how we are feeling.
I don't want you to leave, please let us know how you are.
regards,
sandra.
NN I am so sorry you feel like this. Unfortunately we all have to follow Guidelines and on this occasion a swear word was posted and we aren't permitted to have posts with swear words in to keep in accordance with our Guidelines. We all have to abide by these, even our Volunteer Team and Admin Teams do.
I assure you by correcting swear words in the forum it isn't a personal slight on you, we are just doing what we have to do.
Please know that we care about all of our members and we will always do all we can to help and support them. You are most welcome here we want you to know that.
Best wishes and hugs. xx
Libs
I am really sorry you feel that way but as Libs said we are bound by the guidelines and if we didn't asterisk out swear words then we would probably get complaints and our knuckles rapped. Sadly we as admin are in a no win situation but I will be gutted if you go.
Lets change the b****y guidelines for goodness sake!
[Edited by Admin - swearing is not permitted in the forum in accordance with our Guidelines. A swear word has been asterisked for this reason. Please refer to our Guidelines for clarification
The Guidelines remain firmly in place and will not be amended to permit swearing. We appreciate your co-operation]
Please dont go NN, you are a much loved and valued member of our family. I know a couple of times you have taken the time to answer my blogs and questions and i would be really sorry to see you go.
I have read and re-read your last blog and i cant see anything offensive, but even if you had turned the air blue, its no wonder with what youve just gone through. There are things going on to my friends on this site and i must confess, even though i have no dealings with the powers that be at dwp, thoughts enter my head as i shake my head in disbelief that would have all the admin wearing out their asterix buttons on their keyboards lol!
Is there a solution to this problem? Well as my lovely Karen said, they are in a no win situation, if they dont do anything then they are at fault and in trouble so thats not practical, and JSue said to change the guidelines...is that possible? I dont know. Or maybe a note from admin above a post that may offend others saying, "If easily offended, so not read this post" or something similar. Of course there would have to be lines drawn so that really offensive words are still blocked out.....im just trying to think of ways that would suit everybody because i dont want you to leave the site. We are battling everybody when we have this illness...gp's who are unhelpful, family and friends who dont/refuse to understand, benefits and atos, bosses and co workers stc so we all need to stick together.....all these things we are fighting and thats before we even get started on fibro and everything else that comes with it! So, please NN, reconsider your decision to leave the site! ....Charlii xx
I realise that guidelines have to be kept and admin answer to higher powers in agreeing administer the forum but admin are only human and some posts with swearing in do get through because they get missed and its hard to draw the line at offensive swearing and just a let off of steam. But please don't leave over a few asterisks NN.... In the grand scheme of things having a few letters removed from a post is such an insignificant thing there are much worse things to worry about..and your post remained with only a few stars added..that's the important thing your message got through. Admin haven't asked you to leave just pointed out that they had to replace a few letters with a few stars.... Because its their job to. Please rethink about leaving you have many friends on here no matter how often or few times you pop in to post, and if you think I am posting this because I have never had admin speak to me about anything well you would be totally wrong ...but I am still here because I like to think I can sometimes answer a question or a blog and make a tiny tiny difference..... I mean who else could Charlii ask the question do fish trump.. And yes I know the answer and have posted it...
I think as fibro people we hurt when we feel picked on !!! Everything is so blown out of proportion !! If we were well we wouldn't care if a few stars blacked out a word , what everyone should understand our lives are full of people picking us apart and just getting through a day takes strength beyond belief , so venting to someone is a massive help !!!!
I personally wouldn't be bothered if a member swore ! Yet at the same time wouldn't want to read swear word after swear word , there has to be a line of Whitch we shouldn't cross
And if we do we can expect for it to be removed !! Reading all the comments your a respected and loved member nordicnavajo so try not to worry and stay intouch with you dear friends , sending you soft hugs & best wishes
I agree with this. Although there are swear words I wouldn't want to see, my main objection would be to swear word after swear word.
Ok now this isn't fair..... I can't swear and then censor myself cos I haven't found an asterisk on my iPad .........turns it upside down and shakes it,,, come out I know there's one hidden in there somewhere.....
Dear all, thank you so much, looking back at it I think the most offensive thing was that I felt like a rule breaking number. The blog was full of emotional happenings, judges letter,how theres one rule for them and one rule for us, and more importantly the fact that we had been in and out of the vets for a week, (and since then in and out of hospital). A simple sentence like "i can see you have had a difficult or stressfull time of late" BUT and then the asterix stuff may have not prompted the same response..... I guess it echoed of the only thing important is the asterix rule. I cant even remember which word I used but I do not use many swear words so it cant have been one that would have been voted the most offensive.
I will read here and if I ever have anything critical to say to anyone I will PM. No great loss as blogging days are over, I will be here for those who didnt clock my e mail in any PM's sent.
Even though I don't no you,think everyone on this site going though enough and this is second time I've seen that someone wants to leave :(, thought this site was a family of people going though the same thing??? Surly this petty!!! We're all hear ot surport each other not judge on our English surly ...hope you decided to stay we all need each other if you don't then gentle hugs for you and don't let them burn you down Hunni
I am genuinely sorry about this NN, but we have to adhere to our Guidelines, that is our responsibility as Volunteers/Helpers and Admin to see that these are upheld. We have to edit swear words as these can be offensive to some members and also they are not permitted here in our forum.
Please do not take this personally as we value your membership and we care about you. If we let one swear word go then we are permitting everyone to swear and that Isn't permissible here.
Please continue to enjoy your time here in the forum as you are most welcome here.
I didn't see any swear words and if I had I certainly would not have been offended as I know that we are all being driven mad by all the red tape and uncertainty of all that is going on. I can swear like a trooper when seriously provoked but, like you, can also use the English language correctly without the need to swear.
I can imagine how hurt you must have felt, having poured your heart out about the dreadful way you have been treated as well as all the awful worry with your son in the hospital and your cat at the vets.
I do hope that both your son and your cat are well now or, at the very least, making a good recovery. Do at least let us know how they both are. I care about you and I am sure there are many others on this site who care about you, too, as reflected in the responses above.
If you would like to message me I would be very happy to hear from you.
In the meantime, take great care of yourself and your family.
Loving thoughts and comforting hugs are with you. Saskia XX
I haven't been on here for a very long time. I was guided to an message in my email.. and I opened it up. And here it led me. I have read through everything. I really feel for you. Totally understand that after having the courage to express fully and openly, to find a message about a swear word being used is not in the guidelines, would have thrown you off for sure. I also get what you said about if the message had of been written in a more understanding nature, that it would not have felt cold... in comparison to what you had expressed.
I also think 'nanatre' has a good idea there. Creating a separate space for people to vent without having to think about every word would be great. Yes, obviously in life, around people etc.. we have to think about the words we use.. it is life. But, when we are suffering so much, it would be nice to be able to go to a space where one can vent openly, and be heard by those who are not offended my using swear words.
NN... from what I have read above, there are many here that would be saddened with your departure. The admin too. I wish You much LoveLIght, so that you may have the courage to step up again and be heard.
Pm is a private message. Not visible to all members & viewers like a blog entry, comment or reply is. The only people who can view it are the sender & the recipient so the only people who may be offended by any swear words are those 2.
I understand this issue from both sides as I, & probably many others on here, get so frustrated that sometimes swear words slip through without us having the foresight or concentration to edit them but, having worked as an admin I understand how important it is to keep within the guidelines laid down by the host site. It would be a major blow to find the site removed due to not keeping to the guidelines. Transfering everything to another host site is time consuming & can be expensive plus you nearly aways lose members along the way.
Hello everyone, thank you all for your comments, always appreciated. I am afraid it will not be possible to have a separate area here for swearing etc and to vent freely as you suggest because all of FibroAction forum in its entirety is covered by our Guidelines and we have to follow them.
As Pdhywrd12 so rightly says, unfortunately the odd swear word occasionally does fall through the net, but with the large volume of messages that Admin see every day, it isn't always possible to catch them all. With a membership increasing daily, the volume of messages increases daily too, but we do our absolute best to edit the swearing that crops up. We do get complaints from other members about this too. For as many people who aren't worried by swearing, the same amount are offended by it.
There is no risk of our forum being removed because we do ensure that our Guidelines and HU Guidelines are followed.
We always appreciate members' feedback so thanks to all for your comments. I hope I have been able to clarify one or two points for you.
I haven't read your post, but fro what you say, I don't think you should be too offended. You vented your feelings. Everyone was aware of what you were saying, and could fill in the gaps. Letters substituted by stars really doesn't change the meaning. We all feel victimised at one time or another, but it is part of the illness, and you obviously have many friends on here, so don't let it drive you away. Take care. x
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