DWP "fitness for work" the government response to "health at work"

[hopingowen]

dwp.gov.uk/docs/health-at-w...

[ladymoth]

Thanks, Owen,

That's a lot to read through, but most interesting! Moffy x

[Hidden]

My goodness me, I wish they'd put it a bit simpler, too much for my foggy flare brain to comprehend today, do they do an Idiot Guide for all the changes especially for me. So complicated when I expect in real terms it will still be complex lol!

Sounds like even people with chronic illnesses will be encouraged to work to increase their well being and chance of improving healthwise etc. There seem to be a lot of referrals along the way. The inference will be on "Fit to work" as opposed to "Unfit for Work".

Very interesting, many thanks for posting Owen.

(((hug))) xxx

Libs

[hopingowen in reply to Hidden]

Hi Libs, I know its allot to take in, it took me a good while to plough through it. I know its not easy with "fibro fog" In fact i cant remember reading it !!!!!

Regards

Nigel.

[Hidden in reply to hopingowen]

Yes that's exactly my problem too Nigel, but thanks for posting! I don't mind if it takes a few attempts to sink in lol! xxx

[fairycazzie]

wow it is a lot to read!

i often go through sites reading info but never post links as sometimes never sure if it has been posted before .

anyway yes a lot there and well with this condition depends on the individual and what they are still able to do but as an Employer myself if i had a member of staff come to me i would be so fully understanding and recomending they discontinue , i know this sounds maybe over reacting but you go through phases (well i do) and its impossible.

my jobs a whole package and without one you cannot do the other, so i turned Employer and gave others a chance to do something i love and i think the Goverment are not very understanding at all and not only that due to the Fraud going on it is hard to distinguish but anyone who has enough indepth knowledge of any of the conditions sufferers have then watching and observing and Medical History too which does play a massive part ..

personal opinion Why on earth would anyone want to fake something?! it would be very hard to keep up with and not only that your very very limited. you be on less income and not able to go out and do what you did because you be watched by others too.

we would give anything to be our 'old' selfs again not 'normal' as i was told what is normal and in my response ..well..... as i was before hahah D'UH

ok so i gone of beaten track maybe as not actually read it i just virtually jogged through 1st few jpages ..thats an Aries for you !!

take care xx caroline cazzie fairy whatever you want to say xx

[Kirby in reply to fairycazzie]

The disability benefit rates fraud is 0.5 %. It's a complete myth that it's widespread perpetuated by the government and the right-wing press in order to get the public onside to slash our benefits. Unfortunately the baying mob have lapped it up. Whenever people say 'all the fraud' I always say 'what, do you mean the MPs, the CEOs, the bankers etc?!' Because millions more is lost to tax evasion than benefit fraud - it has always been so. But the public have been duped

[ArctoLindy]

I've tried to read but brain glazed over! I've seen an example of how opinions are collected and wasn't impressed.

There's nothing I'd like better than to be fit for work again, I LOVED my old job!

[tulips123]

Well it took a while, my thoughts? As a concept of providing more support to help people back into some kind of work, sounds great. I know I would be happier if I could. And therein lays the rub. In continuing the policy of putting all these services out to tender and therefore placing profit over people, for all the rhetoric about personal and individual assessment we already know how that pans out! Heaven help us!!

[Devonlady]

I personally would love to be at work and if the government can find me a job where I get paid a living wage even when I am off ill so much I would snap their hands off. However what has happend to me in the past is that I have worked then been on sick pay and had to use every penny left to me by my parents just to pay the bills. i have no savings left and so cannot survive on teh pay no pay thing. Personally I think when there are so many fit able people looking for work this is just stupidity on the part of the government. I worked for a bank and sent out letters without headed paper, huge fines for any bank that does that so one job gone. police forece I could no longer walk so ahd to leave. have had two breakdowns and various shop jobs where I have literally collapsed on the shop floor. If I was an employer I would not employ me based entirely on the fact I am a liability due to brain fog and health and safety nightmare. I am worse in health now that I ever was when sorking for someone else so Mr Cam Moron if you think I am employable give me a blooming job yourself. If you trust me to even make the tea your in for a blooming shock.

[jayjayboy]

There is too much to take in, I worked since I left school at 15 until 7 years ago at age 48 when I was sent to the company Dr as I had been of work for 7 months back for a few weeks then off again for 5 months, and the Dr concluded I was unfit to work. I loved my work and would not have chosen to live on benefits, What employer would take on some-one with so much wrong with them that they may be off work for months at a time, and what would happen with money. The employer deffinately would not pay a wage when we are off work, we would then have to go on ssp, and start all over again. I know I am not fit to work, as I am in constant pain/exhausted/and have to sleep on and off throughout the day. and I cannot retain any information,but as there is nothing VISIBLY wrong with me and to look at me I look fit and healthy.(Sometimes I think if we had a huge bandage over all our sore points then we would look ill) As there are so many unemployed at the moment and desperate for work,surely the government should be concentrating on getting them work. Why are they so set on trying to get people that are ill back into the work force, do they not realise that we would gladly work if we were able, and not have to live on benefits, which in my case is well below what I was earning. Rant over

[fairycazzie]

Yeah guess we read too much 'hear read' lol than 'hearsay'

I never claimed anything it is whats put that we collect info the put into msgs.

43 mum of 4 and worked since school so i am not one to give up without a fight and still fighting!! I feel like a book that you read put down, read put down then nearly at the end hehe and thats how i feel i am nearing the end and will not be read again.

My abilities are becoming less, as much as look at what you can do and not what your unable to.

I/we will be going for DLA as much as i am clinging with my finger nails onto my wrk.

When staff who did not know me prior think am a slice short of a loaf and 'try' tell or ask how to run what i being doing for years aggravates me as much as helping in a fashion..

I was organised, on the ball never stopped and now i can hardly run the daily diary!

So what shall be with the claim for what we feel i must do !

I cannot close down and rely on hubby as its just not going to pay and we prob end up selling our home if not taken from us 1st.

Apologies if off ball there xxxx

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