POVERTY MAKES YOU WELL

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The DWP have published an impact statement in relation to the introduction of PIP, which is set to replace DLA for working age claimants starting from next year.

According to the statement, the total number of people expected to get any award of the care component (called the daily living component under PIP) will fall from 2 million to 1,250,000 by 2016.

The total number of people expected to get any award of the mobility component will fall from 1,940,00 to 1,310,000.

But it is the number of combined awards that will drop most dramatically. The number of people expected to get both a care and a mobility award will fall by almost half, from 1,760,000 to 890,000.

In total, the number of awards is expected to fall from 2.2 million to 1.7 million.

The DWP do not believe, however, that anyone will suffer as a result of the significant cut in income which many sick and disabled people will suffer, arguing on page 10 of the document that they may even become healthier:

“. . . evidence is limited as to whether a change in income has an effect on health . . . It is possible that the policy could have positive impacts on health if it leads to more disabled people moving into work.”

You can download the impact statement from the DWP website and you can read more and comment in the Benefits and Work members only area.

Meanwhile, Iain Duncan Smith told the Telegraph that DLA has grown by 30 per cent in the past few years because it is ‘very loosely defined’ and ‘lots of people weren’t actually seen’. As a result, he argued:

“Something like 70 per cent had lifetime awards, (which) meant that once they got it you never looked at them again. They were just allowed to fester.”

The combination of implying that a large proportion of DLA claims are fraudulent, plus accusing people with permanent impairments of festering, brings us to a new low in the state’s attacks on the sick and disabled. Following on from Duncan Smith’s recent attack on Remploy workers, you could almost begin to believe that he has developed an irrational hatred for the majority of disability benefits claimants for which he should probably seek help.

[Hidden]

What a complete load of rubbish.they wanna try living of 60.00 a week e.s.a.angry by them.lice in normal world goverment please.

[Hidden]

well as i see it they man heard god offering a brain and thought he had said rain being a rue brit polotician he had enough rain and so did not apply.

still looking at the government here at the moment it must bring comfort to parants of drop out kids and thugs they will always be able to findwork in government.

[Hidden]

We are all just a statistic, and the figures have got to look good, same as the league tables in schools, the kids don't matter to a lot of teachers as long as they're high in the ratings!

[Shortnsweet54 in reply to Hidden]

and you know what they say about statistics, ...there are statistics, government statistics...and just damn lies.

Statistics have a habit of being "manipulated" to give the desired results and i wouldn't believe any of them, especially ones given out by this gov't. i think all this let's have a go at disability is a big big smokescreen, methinks they are hiding something and it might have to do with all the tax fiddling oh sorry, non taxpayers in business that just happen to bung the Cons massive "donations", should all be stopped.

despite the austerity measures we hear nothing of any what they have clawed back. Cons by name and by nature

Take care

Jan xx

[moss]

i am confused by this change. i was awarded both care and mobility elements for life. will i now be re-assesed

[Lioslaith in reply to moss]

Yes, you will unfortunately. If you're aged between 16 and 64 I would think it was automatic.

Wonderful isn't it? We have yearly reassessments to look forward to including probably medicals.

I doubt it will save anything, as those who get to 'keep' their benefit with PIP will then face automatic continual reassessments which will probably cost more than they save by cutting 20% off altogether under PIP.

[Bev95]

Poppycock...they want to try living with permenant chronic pain and try to do the simplest of tasks...granted each day is different..but all the same...its ok for those politicians who claim outrageous MP's expenses and rook the system and yet are allowed to get away with it....I think they could make a saving by just cutting those MP's expenses out completely...the majority of them dont need extra money nor do they or should they have second homes!!! I think its outrageous to make assumptions that disabled and chronically sick people will improve their health....I have never heard such rubbish...There are also a lot of us genuine chronically ill people here trying to survive....er and where are they supposed to provide the so called jobs...taking into account the majority of disabled may not be able to do the job because of their disabilities...How many employers are going to be ok if you are unable to undertake certain tasks or even turn up for work because you are in too much pain!! Not many me thinks!!!! This is definitely an attack on those that are most vulnerable in society!!!

[Shortnsweet54]

and you know what they say about statistics, ...there are statistics, government statistics...and just damn lies.

Statistics have a habit of being "manipulated" to give the desired results and i wouldn't believe any of them, especially ones given out by this gov't. i think all this let's have a go at disability is a big big smokescreen, methinks they are hiding something and it might have to do with all the tax fiddling oh sorry, non taxpayers in business that just happen to bung the Cons massive "donations", should all be stopped.

despite the austerity measures we hear nothing of any what they have clawed back. Cons by name and by nature

Take care

Jan xx

[Shortnsweet54]

PS...an after thought, exactly how much is it going to cost the gov't to change from using DLA to PIP, all the letters sent out etc, new systems to be up and running, or not as the case maybe!!, and people no doubt recalled for medicals...all for what..oh to save this Con ...ning gov't money on disability payments. talk about hitting someone when they're down.

Makes you despair at the injustice of it.

Love to all

Jan h xx

[moss]

it sound s so bad . it makes me not want the stress of re applying to be honest

[nonamedaisy in reply to moss]

hi Moss, yes it IS bad, i was also given dla and care for 'life', as you put it, and i am now in the process of trying to claim Esa, its horrendous for everyone who is genuinely ill, filling in forms, when you cant remember what you did this morning, and i have a heart problem so the stress could literally kill me, the government are using extreme tactics to force the people who are unable back to work. we are all fighting this with petitions and so-forth, but no-one is really listening. we must stick together and appeal, appeal, appeal, where are our human rights, and who is going to speak out for us when needed.

its so unfair. they are picking on the people they know who find it hard to fight back, but i will fight with every bone in my body to keep what i feel i should be entitled too. without the help, my life would be nothing. do they care? not a toss. we are just statistics on a page. sorry about the rant, but i am so angry for what they are putting me, and my family, who care so much about me, through.

[bumblebee57]

I agree with Bev, the MPs expenses are outragous and they DO get away with it, and they DONT need it. Just think how much it would cost if WE all claimed for dog food and a posh dinner at some overpriced hotel/restaurant, etc. If they want the country to get back on its feet and increase the workforce, DONT expect employers to employ disabled people unless they CAN turn up every day or stay awake all day or theyre not off their face on medication. The longer this goes on, the more I despair. Its just lunicy

[bumblebee57]

I wonder if theres an actual true honest (laughs!!) account of MPs expenses per year ? It would be very interesting to see just how much taxpayers money they get through. Perhaps thats it...they want as many people to work as possible, even if it kills them, to screw as much tax out of them, so that THEY can fiddle (sorry, slip of finger- claim) more expenses.

[moss]

so come 2013 EVERYONE on dla will need to reapply basically

[Jay2000]

If we are all to reapply, does this mean they will be employing more staff to deal with each and everyone of us I wonder?

It was difficult to get benefit in the first place, and I have just received a form called "Limited capability for work questionnaire" which needs to be completed or benefit will stop. The forms themselves panic me. Maybe that is the whole point of them though