Embryo thaw failure

[butterfliez]

Yesterday morning we attended the clinic ready for our FET and was told our remaining embryo had failed the thaw. I know we should be used to disappointment/bad news by now but always feel hopeful during treatment. This had happened to us back in 2020 on our first cycle. A few years later along with so much in between here we are again.

This was our last day 5 blastocyst from Icsi cycle number 3 ( oct22.) Hoping to go into another egg collection in a few months, waiting for a follow up to discuss. the journey for our 🌈 will continue....

no real point to this post, just wanted to update the latest to others who understand the ups and downs of this life. x

[JA-fnuk Partner Nurse Fertility Network UK]

Sorry to read your post - sending a big hug to you and your OH Hope you have plenty of support around you at this time

Take care of yourself and wishing you well for the future

Janet

[PenguinBlue]

oh I am so sorry to read this. So devastating and despite the crap that ivf / infertility is, the thaw failure is so tough, as it’s the last hurdle after everything you’ve been through.

Sending lots of love. Be kind to yourself and hope your next collection is as smooth as it can be xxx

[Eternalwarrior]

This is devastating and I am so sad for you xxx Be kind to yourself and take care xxx Sending you all my love and a BIG BIG hug xxxxx

[butterfliez in reply to Eternalwarrior]

Thank you ❤️ As you know this is definitely not the worst thing we have been through,We will pick ourselves up and get on because once you suffer baby loss like we have everything else does not compare to that grief. We seem to take the bad news like this on the chin and some how it makes us more resilient. xx

[Skittles11 in reply to butterfliez]

Totally feel this! All the tough times we go through cannot compare when you've gone through such a tragedy but it does not mean that further setbacks are easy. Far from in fact. To me it just feels like another shi**y thing to add to the pile of sadness. But also agree about the resilience xx thinking of you

[Eternalwarrior in reply to butterfliez]

You are so right, but life seems to be so unfair and cruel sometimes. My heart is broken for you xx We become very resilient but I wish we hadn't had to become resilient this way because of what we have gone through xx Sending you all my love and hoping you get some brighter days ahead very soon xxx

[Beingamum23]

stay strong - IVF can be brutal and breaks a lot of people but it's also a wonderful opportunity for lots of people to become parents.

[KediT]

I am so sorry that you are going through this. Allow yourself to go through the emotions and give yourself time to heal. Sending you lots of love & light

[Effie1988]

This happened to us. We transferred our last embryo from NHS to a private clinic, went through all the tests and started the medicines, only to find out on day of transfer the embryo did not survive the thaw. Sorry this happened to you. Wish you the best for your next cycle.

[butterfliez in reply to Effie1988]

Thank you .I am so sorry this happened to you too. it seems such a waste when we don't even get to transfer because of this and never knowing if it could have worked. x

[2cherry79]

I am so deeply sorry! For me...through all of this and multiple failures and upsetting situations with the clinic, my biggest hurt and upset was losing one to the thaw. For me it was my highest quality embryo too and I was so hopeful it would be strong.

Such a devastating thing to go through, and so hard to explain to those who don't know this world.

Sending all best wishes to you. Take your time to grieve and really treat yourself to whatever you need to get through this.

Got everything crossed for your next cycle when you're ready! X

[butterfliez in reply to 2cherry79]

Very sorry to hear this happened to you and with your highest quality embryo, it just doesn't make sense. Your right !so hard for people to understand what it feels like unless your going through fertility treatment. they don't understand all that goes into each cycle, not just all the medication, scans, procedures, but the emotional side, the anxiety of it all, keeping hopes high but always worrying what will happen with no guarantees.

a tough life but we keep on going with hope in our hearts. xx

[Twiglet2]

I’m so sorry 😢 how crap that you had to actually go into the clinic to hear that news! We always get a phone call after the thaw to tell us how it went before we head in, which doesn’t change the outcome but changes the setting of being in your own home for bad news at least! Sending luck for your next round xx

[Hope6108]

I’m so sorry… sometimes life is just unexplainably shit! ☹️ I think, when you want something so badly, you never give up hope… and when you have hope, you feel heartbroken when it hasn’t worked. I also thought we’d get used to heartbreak, we never do though. Whether IVF related or otherwise.

I know it’s so easy to say, but try to think about all the other things in life that bring you joy, do more of those, whatever it is! Your heart deserves more joy.

Sending hugs xx

[neverdance]

You may want to think about changing clinic if this happens to you repeatedly in the same clinic. We had similar issues (see my profile). We will never know for sure if it is clinic but as I learnt, thawing successful rate should be around 95% in a good clinic.

[2cherry79 in reply to neverdance]

Absolutely! I heard that success rate is now 97% at mine and yet I lost a 4AA in the thaw. Although my others thawed ok. None of my frozens have worked so far. It makes you wonder.

In my 2ww for my last one at the moment. Still feel traumatised about hearing about the 4AA. It was done so insensitively. ANd 3% chance of it happening generally, just feels so crazy

[neverdance in reply to 2cherry79]

I guess 3% still doesn’t mean it is impossible to happen. It is probably just bad luck.

It will work this time. Finger crossed for you! I am also going to start with a new round of FET. I am hoping this won’t happen again too

[butterfliez in reply to neverdance]

I am so sorry this happened to you twice too! it does make us think how can that low percentage of these things happening happen at all and more than once!

The thought has crossed my mind about changing clinics, but because I have had success in 2021 with our very first fresh embryo transfer (which sadly resulting in our daughter born sleeping at 34 wks due to pregnancy complications, nothing to do with the IVF side of it) I keep hoping we will have success again here. I am also full of anxiety about having to move.

Did you change clinics after?

I wish you all the best with your next FET x

[neverdance in reply to butterfliez]

We did change clinic. We’ve been told the thawing successful rate in the new place is above 99% for PGT-A tested embryos (comparing to 92% the previous clinic, non PGT-A tested). Really hope it won’t happen again but we will see.

All the best in your next round! You had successful implantation before - I imagine it won’t be hard to fall pregnant again soon. xx

[2cherry79 in reply to neverdance]

As I said to them....someone has to be in the 3%! But it does feel like such a shock. Everything crossed for your next round!

[Solly-44]

God I hate how cruel this process can be. I’m so sorry, you must be absolutely gutted. Sending you big hugs xx

[Bluepaint]

So sorry to hear this butterfliez, it is such a tough journey. Have read your profile, what a warrior you are. I really hope you get your 🌈 baby. I’m doing a FET at the moment & dreading the thaw 😬 When I went for a scan recently the nurse said that fresh transfers will soon be be a thing of the past as freezing processes are now a lot less risky. We shall see. Wishing you all the best x

[butterfliez in reply to Bluepaint]

Thank you ❤️, its does seem some of us have better outcomes from frozen transfers, I wish you the very best of luck for your upcoming transfer, hope all goes well X