Scratch or ERA

[MC249]

Hi all, after some advice really. I have been on this journey for a while now and recently had my 3rd failed transfer. The clinic have suggested a few ideas of what next but weren’t over confident on results etc.. ERA, the scratch and embryo glue. I only have one embryo left on my last round of IVF on NHS. All the above cost money so just weighing up on which ones are worth spending money on? Has anyone had any of the above and have success ? I am conscious if this 4th transfer fails we will have to fund and pay ourselves for the next round. Any advice would be so grateful, this journey is so isolating and scary, I am very drained from all the treatment & Mother’s Day lurking around the corner I am really lost & confused thank you x

[JenRoy]

I found this really useful myivfanswers.com/video/fail...

It talks about donor treatment but it’s totally relevant to own egg ivf

Personally I’d do ERA/ALICE/EMMA over scratch & embryo glue. There’s little evidence for scratch or glue. It’s hard thinking about investing more time and money but it’s worth it to give that last embryo the best chance xx

[MC249 in reply to JenRoy]

Thank you that’s really useful, yes I agree and interesting to get another perspective. Thanks again xx

[JA-fnuk Partner Nurse Fertility Network UK]

Might be worthwhile having a look at the HFEA website hfea.gov.uk '' Treatment Add- Ons''and see what they recommend Also to help cope with Mother's Day see fertilitynetworkuk.org/tips-for-coping-with-mothersday /

Janet

[MC249 in reply to JA-fnuk]

Thank you ❤️💜

[IVFat40]

Hello hun, I actually had all 3 and would recommend them, as you say although they cost it will be a lot less than if you were to need to start again with a fresh cycle privately. One money saver, I had the ERA biopsy in the cycle before before my (successful) FET and was told that the biopsy also acted as a scratch, so there was no need to pay for the scratch on top. It does rely on the clinic being quite efficient and the ERA results coming back in decent time, but for me it all worked out (natural modified FET). TBH the embryo glue is included as standard at my clinic, but it shouldn't be too expensive. Don't get me wrong though, the ERA is a significant chunk of money, but for me if I had my time again I would still do it. Good luck hun 😊

[MC249 in reply to IVFat40]

Thank this is useful to me xxx

[IVFat40]

If you've struggled with implantation failure and/or losses you might also consider getting your uterine natural killer cells tested (for me that was the thing I believe made the biggest difference). It costs about £550 so in IVF world (not in any other!) it's quite reasonable. There's a research project run by Warwick University and Coventry hospital with Tommy's, I thought the Dr's there were wonderful, and you can just self-refer.

[IVFat40 in reply to IVFat40]

Sorry that should say implantation failure or early losses

[My_Miracle_Is_Here]

Embryogen is similar to the scratch, but rather than making the uterus talk to the embryo (scratch), embryogen makes the embryo talk to the uterus. That’s how it was explained to us anyway.

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[MC249]

Thank so useful 🧡