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I read Zita west free food detox advice and she mentions to avoid cookware in stainless steel. I thought it was safe. I replaced all my plastic for stainless steel. So I have now pots, tongues, turners etc in stainless steel. Anyone knows more about this?
I use aluminium paper to cover food in my oven. Is that unsafe? Anyone has info? Also she mentions to avoid eggs and dairy. I eat eggs for breakfast and hard cheese. Is that really bad?
How odd! I am a real health freak. I have always used Stainless steel or glass for all my cook wear as all the research I have ever done (a lot!!) has said they are the best options obviously avoiding anything non stick. This has got me wondering to!!
This has left me wondering too i read eggs are good for ivf??i basically do all of the above , apart from sugary foods etc so any input would be appreciated x
Eggs are one of the most nutritionally dense foods know to man. I had them for breakfast everyday before our successful icsi round because all the research I did said they were good 🤨 xx
Yes this is what iv read too so im not sure this zita person is right 🤔
My consultant told me to eat eggs daily with a slice of wholemeal. So I’ve been doing this for 3 months! It’s the only meal I really look forward to and it doesn’t feel like I’m in a diet....
It's only a 5 day detox it's not a continuous diet, so dont worry xx
Dont worry its just a 5 day detox, I have the book and theres plenty of recipes in there with eggs dairy shellfish etc xx
I've read this as it's part of her eat yourself pregnant book, it's only a detox for 5 days not what you eat throughout IVF. Theres lots of recipes with eggs, dairy (full fat) shellfish and even red meat in there so dont worry xx
I also had eggs every morning before our successful icsi round. I also cooked them in a stainless steel pan.
I also eat squids and prawns
Seems super OTT to me, I mean what on earth are you allowed to cook with?!
I think stuff like this really depends on the type of person you are. I found the one cycle where I did all the ‘right’ things, acupuncture, high protein, no alcohol for months before, meditation etc etc was my worst one out of the four I’ve done. I think I was too strung up on what I should and shouldn’t be doing and that has more of an impact on what’s going on inside your body then what you cook with.
My most successful cycle, I completely lived my normal life. I cooked with my stainless steel pans, I ate runny eggs and I even had a glass of wine the night before my transfer 🤷🏼♀️
I understand that some people benefit from stuff like this as it’s a way to focus that energy of needing control. For me, being relaxed and not feeling like one wrong mouthful of food would ruin everything was much more beneficial.
Hope that makes sense! Bit of a ramble 🤦🏼♀️ x
Like this reply. I read about a third of “starts with the egg” and had to stop and put it in a cupboard- I’m a control freak as it is and it was making me a crazy person!! I do try to have non toxic cleaning things and avoid plastic where possible etc but to do all those things are ridiculous and surely the stress of trying to do all that is worse?! X
I think stainless steel is safe as it is not coated unlike non stick cookware.... Eggs are good if u have free range... Milk, eggs which are now a days produced by inducing hormones its better to avoid them if they are inorganic... Cheese is a processed form of milk which increases weight and cheese is bad for pcos n ovulation...
I read that too, I took it as for the foods anyway it was just about detoxing for a week not about continuing with a stable healthy and nutritious diet. I havent done the detox, but I've got both her books ivf diet and eat yourself pregnant. There is plenty of egg recipes, shellfish and even red meat. So its just for this detox. And as for the aluminium and stainless steel stuff! No idea!! I swapped all mine to stainless steel and glass, I'm pretty sure thats wrong and she means plastics and bpas there xx
Oh no, what’s wrong with kitchen foil? I’ve cut out cling film and trying to use the reusable beeswax wraps but didn’t know foil was bad??
My nutritionist actually shared that women eating more dairy have more successful pregnancies and she recommended I drink 500ml of organic whole milk a day during stims. Oh and by the way, she used to work for Zita West!
To other people's point, if possible, I would try to go for organic dairy and whole milk. As for stainless steel...never heard of this. I heard that it's best to avoid BPA and harmful chemicals e.g. nail polish, hair dye, non-organic shampoos and household products, etc... - that's about it. Best of luck.
I think it’s probably best to aim for moderation. Such strict rules and striving for perfection will just stress you out which in itself isn’t good.
It’s worth remembering the world of fertility treatment is an absolute money spinner for people, and there is a lot of conflicting and even dis information out there. I can say with confidence that wrapping my sandwiches in cling film is not what stopped me getting pregnant for a decade. I think we should give ourselves a break xx
I think it’s because stainless steel still leach metal but slower than aluminium. And it depends how you wash your pots, since that may take away the protective layer. And also it depends if the food is acid. So you want to avoid storing your food in stainless steel.
Your best options are iron cookware basically. Glass is great overall. Wood is good too. So more natural things.
Aluminium is bad and you should avoid cooking with it. There are ovenware that have glass lids.
Eggs are inflammatory and they are usually high in omega 6, unless they are from chickens that have a more natural diet and life. So maybe home eggs or a farmer you know that lets the chicken actually roam around instead of the “free range” without roaming. But in moderation shouldn’t be too bad. Or if balanced with omega 3.
Dairy is supposedly high in hormones. But you can always go for organic. Goats cheese is better as well. The type of casein is different and isn’t inflammatory.
I have iron pans but never came across an iron pot. Do you have an example of suitable pots not leaking anything?
There’s cast iron pots as well. It leaks but it leaks iron which is beneficial and not in high doses to be a problem.
Here’s an example without any ceramic finish
amazon.co.uk/Villeroy-Boch-...
But those with ceramic finish supposedly aren’t bad. I can’t remember very well my searches back than.
I think it’s difficult to be strict and cut everything so I compromised with some stainless steal. I just avoid leaving food in the pots and I try to avoid scratching the inside so it keeps the protection.
Copper isn’t always bad but it depends if you can eat that extra copper that leaks into your food.
Probably the only one that doesn’t leak anything is glass.
amazon.co.uk/VISIONS-3741-V...
But glass isn’t compatible with induction.
After inspecting my pots, 2 have stainless steel written on the back. The other 2 have no detail on material. How can I differentiate between aluminium and stainless steel?
Probably the weight of the pot, and the type of shine. I may be wrong but aluminium is thinner and a more white grey shine. Stainless steel is a deeper grey. Try to compare them.
After searching for a small size pot, I found something in cast iron but it's covered in enamel. Is that safe? nisbets.co.uk/cast-iron-rou...
Check this post, it has a detail list explaining everything.
It’s pretty hard to balance things out m. Since cast iron is heavy and not always ideal for certain things like homemade popcorn or pancakes.
Non stick options are tricky too.
When I was searching I found that some enamel aren’t good. So it’s tricky. I only have one iron pot with enamel. It is very heavy to be honest. But great as a Dutch oven. I also have a couple of stainless steel.
I’ve been exploring stone non-stick coating.
Check the post it gives a great explanation.
The ceramic coating ppl say isn’t good and is overpriced. In no time it gets ruined. I have one pan and that also happened.
wellnessmama.com/5148/safes...
This link explains stainless steel and what is safe or not:
sliceofkitchen.com/is-stain...
google.co.uk/amp/s/gimmethe...
Overall view on safety. If it’s porcelain enamel it should be safe.
Very interesting. Do you know how to find out if the stainless steel pot contains aluminium?
After reading this "If you’re looking for stainless steel cookware that have less nickel in them, you can do the magnet test. Check if a magnet will stick to the sides, bottom, and inside of the stainless steel pot. If the pot is magnetic, it is nickel free", I tested my pots (which are all 304) and they are only magnetic at the bottom. The sides are not magnetic. Not sure what conclusions to draw. Is the bottom the only part that is nickel free?
Some pots have an aluminium layer inside for better conduction. Usually the aluminium is sandwiched between stainless steel. It is Farley safe but one has to be careful not to scratch the pot otherwise the aluminium will start leaching.
I’d imagine that induction pots will have more stainless steel or they won’t work on induction hobs. I guess that explains why the pots I have don’t conduct the heat evenly on the sides and tend to burn at the bottom.
Do you know if borosilicate glass is safe?
I’m not sure, I received an email that you’re asking about glass but I cannot find the text. I’ve never looked too much into glass since it is considered fairly safe. What have you found so far?
Seems ok from what I found
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