8dp5dt BFN!

[minerva17]

Hi sweeties!!!

I got back home 2 days ago... It's 8dp5dt now and it's BFN...I know it's too early, official beta is on Tuesday, but I'm losing hope. I'm not sure I can see a faint line. Things may change, right???

[bfrida]

right, sweetheart. just give it a time. everything is going to be ok.

wish you luck xxx

[minerva17 in reply to bfrida]

thank you..I hope so! I know that it's a common thing, to have bfp earlier...at least a faint line

[bfrida in reply to minerva17]

faint line!! you'll see it soon.

good vibes for you

[Byernblo]

Oh, honey, don’t worry because in advance! I know you want making events closer. You're in a hurry. Try again after 3 or 5 days. I understand your sorrow. But hold on. Everything can change. I’ve been looking at the photo for too long and now I see the faint line too. Hah! seems there is it.

[minerva17 in reply to Byernblo]

REALLY???? You see it? Or you just trying to comfy me? If so, it's a bad idea...It may change...and it may not. Don't know what to do. Plan to test again later tonight... hoping to see brighter line!!!

[Byernblo in reply to minerva17]

We’re waiting for your positive! A very thrilling time!

Hope we’ll see. Please don’t forget about updating.

Sometimes necessary to find out little great events! Really you are to wait a bit, remake in few days, result can be opposite. Hug you and XXX

[minerva17 in reply to Byernblo]

You sound encouraging! you have given me so much hope!!! Still super nervous, but it's the first step in the right direction!! I'll took another test and see if that makes a difference in a few days. I'm not the one who can sit back and do nothing. xxxxx

[Byernblo in reply to minerva17]

It’s so cute, but there are things you can’t speed up. Don’t hasten everything will occur by itself, but you may try if you want. Anyway I hope you’ll be satisfied with outcomes, dear.

I understand the reasonableness of the consistent action but I couldn’t sit back and relax the same t as you.

[minerva17 in reply to Byernblo]

Unfortunately, we can''t control time...like in a movie, Click if i'm not mistaken. I would love to skip some moments, as well as to kive some moments again and again. yeah, I'm sure I will be satisfied!!

I envy those people who can manage their time and listen to reason. How dyou feel?

[godknowseverything]

it's been only 8 days! it is indeed too early, keep calm and wait till it is 14 days past transfer.

Things are definitely going to change!

But there is a faint line, I can barely see it but it will grow clearer in 6 days for sure!

Anyways! good luck and keep us updated! xx

[minerva17 in reply to godknowseverything]

I'll try to wait, but need to be sure before beta.. My present for Valentine's day must be bfp!! Thank you, godknowseverything! x

[godknowseverything in reply to minerva17]

You know some were lucky enough to have their kids born the day of their birthdays! I was really speechless when I was told that my close friend had his daughter on his birthday, right on the same day. So I am sure that you will also be a lucky one!

xx

[minerva17 in reply to godknowseverything]

Oh i understand perfectly what you mean. I was born exactly on the same day my mom's bd was!!! I can't imagine if I'm going to have bfn on Valentine's day...if so, it would be a fiasco!!! but still hoping. thank you!! xxx

[MonkAK]

Don't lose hope Minerva, 8 days is very early and the sticks are rubbish. Wishing you lots of luck. Xx

[minerva17 in reply to MonkAK]

Thank you, sweetie! I googled and it's true, I need to try another test. I thought about clearblue, but i've found negative reviews. Could you please advise me something? I'm newbie in such things and we don't have a wide range here in Bulgaria

[MonkAK in reply to minerva17]

As others have said, I really would try to wait if you can. That said, I have always used Clearblue when testing early and they have always been pretty accurate. Remember though, the hcg from your trigger shot stays in your system for a while (around 10 days I think), so if you test before then you may get a false positive. Good luck.

[ditsy999]

Hi, its far too early to test. Try not to stress yourself out and leave it till the official test day. Good luck xx

[minerva17 in reply to ditsy999]

It's hard as hell, to stay calm...what do women usually do while 2ww? can't focuse on anything! I wrote to my manager and she advised me the same, but I'm so anxious. Too many thoughts in my head..Anyway, thank you!!x

[ditsy999 in reply to minerva17]

I know its hard to concentrate on other things . .find something else to concentrate on, watch lots of tv, go for walks . . meet some friends . .xx

[minerva17 in reply to ditsy999]

right you are! tv shows and books help me to forget my troubles for a while. I didn't tell my friends about what I did, so it would be hard to blab. i'm sure all my thoughts will be about one thing, you know.but I'm not ready to share, yet. thank you x

[Nesfin]

Too early to test!! And if you're going to test, at the right time buy one of those pregnancy tests that are not strips and don't have a plastic end, the other ones absorb the urine much better. I reckon Clearblue (digital) and First Response are good ones - in my limited experience lol - but even with those it would still be too early 😉 And remember that first urine of the day is the best to test with.. if you test in the evening, you should try not to drink and not go to the toilet for 4-6 hours, and being dehydrated is not good for your embie so try to distract yourself and get through each day one at the time. Easier said than done I know!! xoxo

[minerva17 in reply to Nesfin]

I knew that these strips are not the best, but I had no choice, as there were no digitals at the nearest pharmacy. I'll try to find the ones you named, hope it's possible to find them here (I'm not from UK, but it must be clear judging by my English lol). Yes, it was a hasty decision indeed. However, at least something was made right, I mean I tested early in the morning.

Thank you, Nesfin! It's so nice of you to share your experience! I hope you're doing well xxx

[emzlou25]

Hi babez did u do a day 3 or 5 transfer?? X x x

[minerva17 in reply to emzlou25]

hi, emzlou! in my case it was day 5 transfer. It's the only option my clinic offers. As far as I know, there are lots of clinics now which perform blastocyst transfer (day 5), not morula (day 3). Actually, I tried to find out which method is more efficient and failed to reach something. It's like fresh and frozen transfer issue, opinions vary.

[Nesfin]

Your English is very good but yes you did mention in the thread that you live in Bulgaria. Don't worry if you can't find the ones I mentioned, maybe google what is the local experience? Like I said generally for me those that have a proper large absorbent tip tend to be better but I've seen women here use all sorts and the result will come through when the time is right 😊😊 Think it's great that you have blastocysts too, general consensus seem to be that they are better because some of the natural selection process has already taken place (and it's easier for the embryologist to pick up the best one[s] ) but it's not exact science which one takes a shine to your body as a home for the next nine months!! 😄😄 Thank you I'm well, anxiously waiting for my 6wks scan - cannot come soon enough!! xoxo

[emzlou25 in reply to Nesfin]

Hi babez by dat 9 with a 5 day transfer u should be able to get a positive result i got my frm day 8 with my BFP..on ur picture uv posted it looks like u have a very faint line so fingers crossed u can see it very faint on ur picture xxx

[minerva17 in reply to Nesfin]

oh thank you, dear! unfortuantely, we don't have such great source helping women to overcome difficulties. however, it's possible to have clearblue here. Yeah, I also think that even this strip won't lie when it's clear I'm preggy. Maybe it would be even better to submit to a blood test..

yea, it's definitely easier to choose better embryos when they are at least 5 day. I heard about 6-7 dt...and I've just tried to find an issue about 3dt but found nothing. I remember something was written about 3 dt advantages..can't recall.

Oh, it's fab! you're mommy! keep fingers crossed xx

[Nesfin]

I think the decision whether to do a day 3 or 5 transfer has mainly to do with the number of embryos collected. With only a few, the embryologist can see pretty quickly which one(s) are developing but in case of a larger number of embryos they can let the development and the natural selection continue to see which embryos continue to develop to full blasts. That is what I've been told anyway and it certainly is a case for me. I had 3 collected, 3 fertilised last year with D3 transfer - BFP - MC. I had 8 collected, 6 fertilised embies this year of which 4 continued to grow to full blasts with D5 transfer - BFP - scared.. obviously not all 4 were put back in lol so two went to the freezer 😂 I really trust my embryologist so haven't done much research around it so there might be more factors around the decision 😄 Actually I'm sure there are since they are highly qualified specialists!

[minerva17 in reply to Nesfin]

i guess you're right on this matter. I didn't think about it such a way. I haven't try own eggs fertilization and there is slightly such problem when using donor eggs. It makes sense then.

Sorry for your first mc, really..it's so heartbreaking. however, your 2d go is great! 4 embies on day 5 out of 8 it's pretty good, imo. haha and 2 frosties..

It's a great feeling, trust in your clinic, right? It's not the thing that happens left and right. Even positive result doesn't guarantee confidence. Where is your tx?

[SheriWell]

sorry, minerva17, you said that you got back home 2 days ago. Did you go internationally for your ivf treatment?

[minerva17 in reply to SheriWell]

Yup, it was donor egg ivf, so I couldn't do it at home. I still can't understand why it is so. European countries are all civilized and we all want to have babies, why it's banned in some places....

[SheriWell in reply to minerva17]

oh, many reasons: ethics, religion, moral. I think this will always be a controversial question. so, where are you from and what country did you travel to?

How are you feeling now? Any news?

[minerva17]

Hahaha. yes, Rasteny, patience is not our, women's, strong point. I can only envy those women who are strong enough to live their lives during 2ww not even trying to test before beta. yep, thanks for advice, I thought about this option. It's my only wish for the nearest future. x

[mannamay]

Oh hon you did this!! I don't remember if I've seen your updates before but I remember you asking advice and now you are in IVF... Well, as to your test, you know you did it too early so don't think it can show you the exact hcg level. You need to wait...even if you expect to see faint line 2 days before beta it may not show you what you want to see. You may try every day but then don't upset yourself. Looking forward to your bfp post on valentines day!

[minerva17 in reply to mannamay]

Yeah, it seems to me like it was many years ago...I remember myself being so newbie...phew. thank god I did the first step. You are right, I know it was stupid of me...everybody told me not to do so, i brought this on myself. Anyway, tomorrow is the day and I will wait, I'm waiting. I've booked a table in a restaurant for a dinner. gosh...! I hope I won't go down in flames. . .

[Nesfin]

I had no idea there are european countries where egg donation is not allowed.. rather strange if you ask me! I know it's a difficult decision for any woman but it should still be an individual's decision. I'm glad to hear you've found a place elsewhere. I'm in London and so is my clinic although they have a sister organisation in Prague should I need it in the future. MC is heart and soul breaking, and it is unbelievably hard to be pregnant again after that but I need to believe that it is possible to stay pregnant. If I miscarry again (after three cycles), I don't know if or how I could continue. All I pray is that my lil beanie will stay and grow inside of me happy and snuggled this time 🙏🙏❤❤ And I wish you the best outcome too xoxo

[minerva17 in reply to Nesfin]

If I'm not mistaken egg donation is not allowed in Germany and Italy. Maybe there are other countries, I'm not sure. however, even if de ivf is legal in your country, there are age limits...so, I had to go abroad, Ukraine actually.

Don't think about it, you'll be fine!! And your baby won't leave you! Praying for us! x

[Byernblo in reply to minerva17]

I know that ED is prohibited in Norway and Switzerland. In some countries this procedure is punishable by criminal liability. An option to go abroad for DE is more available for majority of people than even an adoption in their native locations.

[minerva17 in reply to Byernblo]

Oh, right. I think I've heard about these countries too. I wouldn't compare fertility treatment with DE and adoption... different things, you know. Akk these things are individual. Women may have 10 ivf rounds with own eggs to have genetically related baby; some of them are ready to do the same with donor eggs just to carry own child; some women look for surrogacy because ivf is contraindicated for them; some couples adopt not even having fertility issues and some people decide to live childless life. The same thing is with other aspects. Not every couple wants to go abroad even if it's cheaper elsewhere.

[minerva17]

haha, i see now. I don't know what is easier, to be the one waiting for a baby inside or to be apart from your surrogate mother and just wait...your burden is heavy, no doubt. Anyway, you coped with this! I'm so happy about your positive! Btw, I'm still waiting...haven't tested since that time. Decided to wait till tomorrow...it would be the day of love and even if it would be bfn, and it wouldn't, then I could rely on the power of love hahaha

[minerva17]

yes, I was also surprised by the day of beta, considering the fact that our ET should be earlier. I would love to think it's a sign like you've said. Although, I don't believe in fate and other pseudoscientific stuff, it's easier to hope for the best now. Your support is incredibly helpful! Thank you!!! I'll post my hcg tomorrow!! x

[minerva17]

yeah, I understand what you are talking about, although in my country it's allowed I don't suit for treatment here. I have been reading lots of reviews about different clinics on fertilityfriends and I was a bit surprised by the number of couples having their treatment in Ukraine. I thought it couldn't be popular among infertile people from all over the world.

[minerva17]

Congrats, rasteny!! It's so nice to know that you're doing great! You know, after my bfp it seems like there are more people who finally have reached success. When I had this negative I met only those who are in the same boat. Our mind is playing dirty tricks...I've been more than a week in Kiev and I sort of miss the city. So, a bit envy you for being there again Wish you and your baby all the best, hon!!