Question about coffee

[Bluegirl52]

I am 67 years old and have never drank coffee. Just hate the taste. Now that I have cirrhosis, I’ve read that drinking coffee is good for the liver and particularly for preventing HCC. First off, any suggestions for learning to like coffee would be appreciated. Also, how much should I try to drink everyday? Thanks!

[nash2 Partner]

Hello Blue

It can be a challenge. It is good for yo and reduces the risk for liver cancer by about a third. Note, it also need to be brewed through a paper filter. There are harmful chemicals that are captured by the filter. It is an acquired taste for many people but if you try it fora time and just can't learn to like it even a little, it may help to just think of it as medicine and not try to like it. Just take it like some bitter cough medicine. We don't sip cough meds for pleasure.

Wayne

[cccd in reply to nash2]

Why brewed through a paper filter?

What is wrong with a straight up espresso or using a cafetière?

[Bbohnie in reply to cccd]

the dire advisory is that too much unfiltered coffee – like the kind that you get from a French press – can potentially raise your bad cholesterol. According to recent article on the Harvard Health Blog, not filtering your coffee allows oily substances to slip through known as diterpenes

[nash2 Partner in reply to cccd]

Hi cccd

The answer is in the earlier post. There are two chemicals in coffee that are not good for the liver. They are caught by the filer but espresso gives them to you. A healthy liver manages them just fine but if you are sick it is one thing you can do to treat your liver more kindly. It only matters to those who are trying to do everything they can to not stress their liver more.

Wayne

[Herman7275 in reply to nash2]

I have work with the Doctors of IU Medical Center in Indianapolis, IN. and they told me they wanted me to drink only water and black coffee and I have stage 3 Fibrosis and a fatty liver. Never once saying anything about coffee being harmful to my liver nor has it given me any problems in the last 18 months of drinking nothing but water and black coffee.

[nash2 Partner in reply to Herman7275]

Coffee is good for the live but ideally it should be brewed through a paper filter. Just one more small step to minimize liver stress. Most docs don't pay any attention to it because it is a small thing in itself but small things add up which is our point of view.

[Bubbie5 in reply to Herman7275]

Your stage with fatty liver is just like mine. F3 and fatty liver. What do you take for headaches?

[Herman7275 in reply to Bubbie5]

well I was told not to take anything but tylenol, but if migraine doesn't go away I give in and take Excedrin migraine meds till its gone...are you on low carb diet and exercise ???Write me back Ron

[Bluegirl52 in reply to nash2]

Thanks for the advice! I am using a coffeemaker with a filter. Like taking the olive oil, I just swallow the coffee reminding myself that it’s good for me. I use no sweetener but add a bit of 1 percent milk. Is that ok?

[nash2 Partner in reply to Bluegirl52]

I add a bit of whole milk myself.

[Herman7275 in reply to Bluegirl52]

yes, I was told early on to in my walk with finding out items to take for liver issues, was told to drink olive oil, which I did till I met and worked with Barriactric of IU Medical Center. They told at that time that drinking olive oil was not needed and that I should stop which I did.

[Bbohnie]

“A single espresso a day can damage heart.” “Just one espresso can put your heart at risk.” “One caffeine-packed cup can slow blood flow to the heart by 22%.” ... The current thinking is that the long term benefits are due to coffee's antioxidants while the unfavourable acute effects are due to caffeine

[rnpath]

coffee has nothing to do for cirrhosis

.try pure pea berry brand filter coffee powder in the proportion of 30ml black coffee extract with 70 ml fullcream milk and sugar free tablet1

[Rsf232]

Hi! The doctors who treat my NASH (at the University of Chicago Liver and Metabolic Diseases Clinic) recommend 3 cups of coffee per day. It's the polyphenols that do the trick. (There's good evidence available online -- randomized gold-standard trials.) I use a Nespresso machine; they say that's just fine.

As for taste -- I put cinnamon in mine, and some lowfat milk or sugar free creamer. You could also try adding vanilla or almond flavoring -- I have a no-sugar amaretto flavor that's nice.

One other possibility -- iced coffee, maybe, especially if you throw it into a blender with a few ice cubes and make it into a smoothie. Especially with protein in the milk and a little sweetener (or maybe even Nesquick sugar free chocolate powder) -- then you could drink it as a milkshake for a healthy (and filling) snack. Good luck!

[schirrosissufferer]

The nicest way to drink coffee is with a spoonful of chocolate powder in it, but watch out for those sugars and fats... its called a chocoffee... I sometimes indulge, but it is a treat... enjoy!!

[Herman7275]

I have been told that and have read that also, I have drank a lot of coffee in my day, I am 66 yrs. old fatty liver, NASH... but was told could not use sweetner, so I drink water and coffee black, no sweetner at all in my coffee, that are the only to liquids I drink....

[lydiaworkman]

I am lucky to be a coffee drinker so I welcome the fact that coffee is good for me since I have NASH. I drink three cups a day but also drink one to two cups of turmeric tea with honey. There are quite a few detoxifying teas that help with NASH and these make a good supplement to the coffee since if I drink coffee in the afternoon and evening it interferes with a restful night's sleep. I have a liver biopsy scheduled for January so I am nervous to find out if I have fibrosis. My enzyme numbers were quite high and that is how I discovered I had NASH after an ultrasound! Never had any symptoms.

[DanOstin]

Amazing! Frankly speaking, I see for the first time a person who had never drunk coffee. Indeed, it really can help with your problem, but you must choose a natural one that would taste good for you. To tell the truth, I also chose for a long time coffee that I would like and not disgust. We were working in an office without a coffee machine and we drank just soluble coffee. Indeed, soluble is just the chemistry that spoils all the impression of a really quality drink and that will discourage forever any desire to drink coffee. So, that's why it is better to choose only a natural product. For example, my favorite is Mushroom Coffee by ryzesuperfoods.com/products... . I tried it a year ago and I fell in love with it. Really, there is no specific smell and it has a deep rich taste.

[Bluegirl52 in reply to DanOstin]

Over the months, I’ve become quite good at drinking my coffee. Filtered coffee over ice with a splash of unsweetened almond milk. I drink it with a straw and place the straw on the back of my tongue so I don’t get a lot of coffee taste. Still don’t love the taste, but I get my three cups and more In everyday.

[Herman7275]

WelI, have a fatty liver and fibrosis stage 3 , I was told I could have to drink water or coffee nothing in it as not allowed to use sugar since I am diabetic and artificial sweetners are not good for you so I have learned to drink my coffee black.. I really enjoy my coffee now, I drink probably more than I should but, I limit myself with everything else, only have 30 carbs a day which is real hard, have lost 81lbs. So I can't tell you how to get used to drinking coffee, possibly a flavored special blend would help you, coffee is acquired taste...Good Luck ...Ron

[RuthR]

I too have never been a coffee drinker, tho in the old days I loved coffee and mocha shakes. I found Paul Newman's organic decaf ground, and have been dripping it thru a cone filter. Despite having grown up with a family of coffee diehards, I actually have gotten to nearly 67 without ever having made coffee! Had to read up on how to do it! Haven't been able to get in 3 cups, but trying to get up from my current one/day,

My favorite treat is cold coffee, blended with unsweetened almond milk and unsweetened cocoa, and if I can afford the carbs, a banana or half of one. Various additions: some NF greek yogurt, frozen riced cauliflower, or protein powder.

Question to all: is a tiny bit of powdered MONK FRUIT safe as sweetener? (As pure as possible; the cheaper brands have additives.) It helps a lot to sweeten. My dietician says OK, but she's not a liver expert.

Also, I have been assuming that vanilla extract is out, because of the alcohol. I am awaiting delivery of a bottle of non-alcohol vanilla, and hope it is worth the price.

[Bubbie5 in reply to RuthR]

Oh my I used vanilla extract this morning. Never thinking about the alcohol.