Loosing hair 16-8

[Newbeginnings20]

Hi just asking as anyone got any POSITIVE feedback lol on hair loss and the recovery stage!

I’m peri-menopausal almost there at menopause eek and 51

So been fasting since May 16-8 then July started OMAD then November my hair started to fall out and continues.

I know I may have touched on this subject so bear with me please 😉

[S11m Volunteer 70lb IF20]

Hi, Newbeginnings20 , welcome to Fasting and Furious - I am glad you have found us.

My advice is normally that on LCHF/(I)F, if you eat a normal, balanced varied diet, you do not need to count anything - so there would be no record of macros or nutrients.

Before I started communicating with you I had not heard of anyone losing hair on (I)F - and I have applied to get on to the Delay Don't Deny forum to see if I can work out why some people there are having a problem.

I hope someone can give you useful information - and you get better soon.

[Newbeginnings20 in reply to S11m]

Hey

Thank you so much 😊

I jus get my head all in a muddle and can’t get my head round what to eat!

So on the low carb - high fat I’m not sure what to eat and how much? Can I do this when I can eat between 12 and 8pm

If you google Jason Fung or even fasting and hair loss a lot comes up!

It’s your body going into shock - it also can happen if you have a accident or a bereavement.

Looking at taking Biotin supplements but at the same time I’m also telling myself that there are people out there with far worse problems than me !

The replies are just that this can happen and it is only temporary.

[S11m Volunteer 70lb IF20 in reply to Newbeginnings20]

I was bald long before my wife died.

[Subtle_badger 16Kg IF 72hrs]

I haven't been fasting long enough to have experienced a nutritional deficit, but I thought I would look at my diet and my health records and see if I had anything useful to share. I was particularly thinking about your B12 deficiency.

I haven't got much to help with, I am afraid. My last blood test in October (looking for underlying cause of thinning hair and before I started fasting) my b12 was right at the top of the healthy range - so that's no use to you.

I'm also tracking my nutrition at the moment (while fasting), so I thought I would look at my b12. It seems really healthy, coming from dairy and meat, going over the RDA most days.

But over the last week (the only retrospective I have easy access to), my average B12 was about 7x RDA. That's because I had several meals from a bag of fresh mussels (cooking them all, and then freezing the left over meat). It turns out a single mussel has about roughly the RDA of B12. Each tiny little mussel!

If you are looking for a way to increase B12 in your diet adding mussels (and oysters and presumably other shellfish, I haven't checked) is one way.

Hope this helps, or at least you know someone read your question even if it's useless!

[Newbeginnings20 in reply to Subtle_badger]

Hey thanks so much for your reply Subtle_badger

It’s not just B12 that can cause hair loss it can be low in iron - vitamin D etc

For me though all was good aside from B12 - before I went to OMAD I was eating lots of foods with B12 but then I stopped and also being honest I was drinking a bit and not eating great! So done this maybe to myself 🤷‍♀️

I am full of B12 now as had 6 injections and now eating lots of the right foods.

I am however going to order some biotin tablets to help my hair come back! Hopefully

[Newbeginnings20 in reply to Subtle_badger]

Hi

Btw lol I just about eat fish fingers!

I could not even begin to eat a mussel or oyster 🦪 etc 😬

What a wimp I know - lol

[Subtle_badger 16Kg IF 72hrs in reply to Newbeginnings20]

Not at all. I love mussels and oysters, but fish fingers make me gag. I couldn't eat them, even as a kid. I guess we are all different. Squid, octopus, eel, raw sea urchin etc etc, but not fish fingers. OK, I didn't eat raw sea urchin when I was a child.

BTW, it sounds like this hair loss may be a blessing in disguise. No one wants to lose their hair, but it might have stopped eating and drinking behaviours that could have seriously damaged your health in the long term. Better to need a wig than a heart bypass.

[Newbeginnings20 in reply to Subtle_badger]

Oh my days Subtle_badger

All that fish but no fingers lol wow

Yes it’s funny you know as I was married for 23 years and didn’t drink at all in this time!! Then when I separated in my forties it was time to make up for loss time lol and have fun 🤪

Anyway I have come to realise ok it’s taken a few times to come to realise but that even when I’m really down and at my lowest it doesn’t make me feel better in the long run! It’s a depressant I know! Anyway I’m doing different stuff now with my money new year new beginnings- thanks for your replies 🙃

[Stoozie Administrator in reply to Newbeginnings20]

Welcome. I just wanted to add that if anyone is looking for non-fish, cheap dietary sources of B12 then Marmite (we use Asda's own brand) is very high in it.

[Newbeginnings20 in reply to Stoozie]

Thanks Snoozie

I love Marmite lots ❤️

I love it on rice cakes with smashed up avocado 🥑

[flo72003]

Hair loss is also a symptom of hypothyroidism. So maybe your GP can prescribe test of TSH and FT4. Many symptoms of menopause and hypothyroidism are similar, so I would be tempted to check, just in case.

[Newbeginnings20 in reply to flo72003]

Thank you Flo72003

I’m not sure if I have had that done? Had full bloods taken and all was good aside from my extremely low B12

[flo72003 in reply to Newbeginnings20]

If you have records of your last blood test check whether your TSH was tested. If not, maybe ask the GP? Gaining weight, feeling tired and losing hair are symptoms of underactive thyroid. Also if you change drastically your diet, it affects your hair and I think might affect your thyroid.

[Subtle_badger 16Kg IF 72hrs in reply to flo72003]

Newbeginnings20 - are you in the UK? I can log into my GP's website - where I can make appointments and ask for repeat prescriptions - I can also access my complete medical record, so can pour over my test results and see every measure (and compare them with my previous tests).

If you can access that, it will probably help you see where you are.

Thanks flo72003 : I just confirmed my TSH was measured and right in the middle of the normal range.

[Newbeginnings20 in reply to Subtle_badger]

Thanks Subtle_badger 😊

[Newbeginnings20 in reply to Subtle_badger]

Hi Subtle_badger

I have spoke to the surgery and my TSH levels back in August were 2.22 so all good I think lol 🤔

[Subtle_badger 16Kg IF 72hrs in reply to Newbeginnings20]

Yes! According to my results, you are smack bang in the middle of the reference range (which can vary on age and gender, so probably the same range for you)

[0.55 - 4.78]

[Newbeginnings20 in reply to Subtle_badger]

I’m 51 😬

[Subtle_badger 16Kg IF 72hrs in reply to Newbeginnings20]

Close enough 😂

[Newbeginnings20 in reply to Subtle_badger]

🤣- lmao

[Newbeginnings20 in reply to flo72003]

Hi Flo72004

My thyroid is fine they did check that x

I’ve only just put on weight as I’ve stopped fasting and no more tired than normal lol

Yes drastically changing your diet as in not taking enough calories or you stop getting certain vitamins in you. This can make you lose your hair.

[Newbeginnings20 in reply to flo72003]

Hi Flo72003

I have spoke to the surgery and my TSH levels back in August were 2.22 so all good I think lol 🤔

[S11m Volunteer 70lb IF20]

Dr Mindy thinks that hair loss is due to environmental toxins:

youtu.be/4rsTK9eCzz4(Not working as expected?)

Dr Eric Berg re (minerals and vitamins for hair loss:

I take a teaspoon of Pink Himalayan salt every morning in my green tea -but I have been bald for decades.

youtube.com/watch?v=4r8Mf7B...(Not working as expected?)