I posted on here yesterday re an issue we have at my sons nursery. I had a meeting with the nursery this afternoon and have been told that if he poos or wees, but especially if he poos, they cant change him as they are 3 staff tp 24 children and so parents will need to be called to change their child. This seems ludicrous to me.... Is this correct? Thanks All
Nursery staff ratios and toilet accidents : I posted on... - ERIC
Nursery staff ratios and toilet accidents
It doesn't sound correct to me. It is true there is a legal requirement to have one member of staff for every 8 children in a nursery setting, but that doesn't mean that one staff member can't take a child into the toilets or a private area to change him if he has pooed himself. They have a responsibility to care for the children in their charge, and leaving a child sitting in his own waste until a parent comes in to change him is hardly doing that.
I did voluntary work in a school nursery which had similar staff ratios and they changed children who had toilet accidents.
No sweetheart the school or nursery should have given you a form to sign to give them permission to change you’re child’s bottom especially if they have a bowel or bladder condition, my daughters school have been amazing and that is how I know that they are just being fussy...I think they are just trying to protect themselves in case of any complaints x
Take a look At the above guidance re school/nurseries. It’s very specific that they don’t call the parent or allow your child to sit like that. I live in Northern Ireland and the school did this to my child- I ran to the school for 2 months until I couldn’t do it any longer. I showed the attached to them and suddenly they then had the available staff to help her
I don’t know about nurseries attached to schools, though I can’t see them being any different to private ones when it comes to legal requirements - but I believe it’s 1 adult for every 3 children under 3 and 1 for every 8 for over - so technically yes they are correct 3 staff for up to 24 children- how we that should not stop them changing a child who has an accident... my daughter has then reasonably often and they just bag everything up and get her new clothes (that I provide).
Not sure why they think it’s different for them.
I’m curious - how young do they take children at this nursery?
3
So that’s still pretty young - even without impaction problems you wouldn’t expect a ‘normal’ 3year old to be potty trained, it’s just not realistic!
And also I worked well over an hour away from my child’s childminder when I was working - would they leave her all that time in her own soiled clothes until I got there...?!?
Sorry Maria I am feeling very frustrated for you.
I had to do this and still do, they won’t budge on it - they knows she’s struggling but ‘don’t have the staff or time’ to change her. Best they can do is supervise her sorting herself but that’s pretty useless to be honest. I fed your frustration x x
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I was running for 2 months and temporarily moved my office location so I could get there in as short a time as possible but one day it took me 40 mins to get there. I walked in and it broke my heart to see her sitting waiting for that long. I knew then for her mental health and hygiene this couldn’t go on. I went in and explained I couldn’t let this happen and on top of this I had to return to my normal work location so it would be over an hour before I could get there. I advised them that this was a safeguarding issue to leave her sitting. They agreed and said if I couldn’t get there that she would only be allowed to come to school for one hour per day. I shared the attached link with them and I also said that they were denying my child the right to an education through something she had no control over. I got advise from a consultant that we saw privately and he advised that a child doesn’t always have full control until they are 7 years old - I also brought this to the attention of the school at the meeting. Shortly after that meeting we then had a solution with a teaching assistant from another class coming to help her if an accident helped.
Look at the Equality Act. Children should not be discriminated against because of a medical condition. They should be offered the same hours as everyone else. I’m pretty sure they should not be calling you in and impacting on your work because of a medical condition.
I manage i nursery I would find this is unacceptable , how old is he ? Part of our care is personal care off course they need to change him . I would contact your council early years team .
You Probably wouldn’t want to go to a nursery that had that attitude any way .