Diabetics..... Treatment.
I heard from a friend that his severe . diabetics symptoms vanished when he was treated for liver. He explained the logic and it fits in very well. Shows that how the pharma - medicos combine fool us. If the entire Pharma researchers medical professionals did not discover It this long, they are fit to be in business and sent behind the bar. Using natural remedies for liver, can cure diabetics. No harm in giving a try. Just like taking Methi seeds, methi leaves.....
Can you please elaborate further
I have used methi for 6 months and not cured
Can u please explain it in a better and detailed manner which can benefit all.
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My friend said he took some popular liver tonics for a few weeks.
This article will explain more.
Good wishes.
nat123 why this type of theoretical presentation can you and your friend a brief process summary on this which can be more easy to understand to take trial or just you want to create a confusion.
nat123 ask your friend the name of those popular liver tonics and publish here for the benefit to all forum members.
I remember it as liv 52. Becoz I bought and consuming now.
I am yet to chl sugar level..... Will do after a week or two.
This cud be a solution for say 10 to 50% of victims. There could be some direct and indirect connection to fatty liver. Not a problem taking liv tonic.
Really?
Well methi seeds do reduce insulin resistance... but they hardly have any action on liver... but what you say is very right that liver should be target organ for diabetes treatment...
Why medical community is not talking about liver is mystery
They don't even consider fatty liver as some issue
It's just grossly ignored
Infact liver scan is never done as a matter of normal investigation for diabetics
Yes..very true....what is cause of fatty liver is unknown...is it due to diabetes...or is diabetes is due to fatty liver is unknown...how ever as fatty liver vanishes other symptoms like IR/TG also get better.
True
My fasting improved after taking milk thistle for just 3 months
You have also seen the lab reports
Zinc improves liver function , reduces fbs and ppbs . One can get serum zinc test and if found deficient , zinc supplement is very prompt in curing diabetes caused by zinc deficiency .
Shashikantiyengar which brand milk thistle you are using and where do you get online or else.
Import it thru ebay.in
Doctor's best brand.
300mg (2caps) before BF
A bit costly but worth it for 4-6 months course
Is it 150Mg+150 MG
Yes
Sorry. Did not spell it properly
The capsules are of 150mg
So please take 2 caps per day.
Can take both the small caps before BF
Results can be seen in 1.5 months to 2 months
Works best with a low carb diet.
My fastin which was at the range of 95-105 now comes at around 85-95
What is the brand name/ medicine name to Milk thistle in India? which compnay prepares it? I enquired in two Ayurvedic medical shops by name 'milk thestle', they are not aware of it. please tell me where can i find it?
ZINC deficiency could also be the cause of fatty liver .Zincum homeopathic preparation can be used with success at a low potency or ZINC SUPPLEMENT can be used after consulting the Endo . But I doubt very much whether any doctor appreciates your suggestion .
bhaswathy Can you write here the particular test for ZINC deficiency we can include in our routine blood test. publish the name of ZINC SUPPLEMENT
You can ask for serum zinc test . You also ask for serum potassium . copper , magnesium , and manganese as all these affect liver functioning .Potassium deficiency causes liver and kidney damage . Copper deficiency hampers liver in carrying wastes and toxins out of the body .I don't have much knowledge about supplements . I go only for homeopathic preparations in small and minute doses .
@cure , you can try zinc and see it's effect on ppbs and fbs , insulin .secretion , carb metabolism.
sure...i am already taking multivitamin which contains zinc
@ cure , You said you are taking multivitamin . so it may be irrelevant to say this , but diabetes also gets cured , if magnesium is taken for 6 weeks in case of magnesium deficiency , nickel and cobalt in case of those deficiencies , copper in , case of copper deficiency so on and so forth. When serum test is done the deficiency is known . I waited all these days to get confirmed of this point .But I don't trust supplements of pharma companies . You all don't believe homeopathy .Homeopathic preparations taken in minute doses corrects the problem of deficiency . Where diabetes is of genetic origin , or of psychological origin , or of some diseases in the past , constitutional medicine is required . In case of simple deficiencies the said replacement is sufficient . Even homeopathic doctors are not doing justice to their duty because they have got financial interest and are not doing a thorough probe .Since my aim is different I deal the cases in a different way .
What we are calling diabetes is not a disease , it is manifestation of a set of symptoms . The problem is different . Many times it is deficiency of a particular mineral or metal .
Getting the nutrients through the large servings of greens , green vegetables and fruits is also rather risky in our country where quality is at compromise due to the extensive use of chemicals and pesticides out of ignorance by illiterate farmers .The situation abroad is not that and if we go by internet info regarding the use of vegetables and fruits in large quantities we end up in more diseases . The quality controls are too rigid there . Many times our produce is rejected there . To my dismay I found out cashew which we get here is of too inferior quality when compared to that available there , though it is exported from our country . Since we do not have other option , right now , till such time a revolution takes place in this respect , we have to go by limited use .I specially discourage salads until it is prepared after thorough washing and soaking of the vegetables in salt water at least for an hour .This is a mere solace but not total solution .
I do agree that it is near impossibility to go as per my findings . But we can try to change the prevailing conditions.
Equally true...but quote a generic statement. Each deficiency manifested itself as a disorder of a part in body.
I agree with you Hidden alongwith dificiency...there are many other reasons for becoming diabetic.... we have to find outthem and treat them all....
Yes ,cure , I do agree that diabetes is hydra headed monster .But if one by one is tackled one fine morning the problem just vanishes in to thin air . All people may not have all deficiencies .But all do not have even genetic tendencies even . Now it has come to an alarming state , where every fourth person is attacked by this problem irrespective of age ,diet , background . Long continued depressions , failures in business , professional disappointments , suppressed angers , reserved displeasures , love failures , social unacceptance , financial disasters pollutios in air , water ,food all are contributing factors . A SINGLE solution is inadequate
I remember, one day I had to shout for a ever persisting problem with a colleague. Immdly after I became unconscious for a while.
With high BP not coming down with sedatives for three days my normal health disappeared. That was the time I got bp, perhaps sugar too.....
Trigger for sugar from anger.
nat123 , That could have been caused by MAGNESIUM DEFICIENCY .GET serum Magnesium test done
We will have a new problem to solve. Once lepracythen we had AIDS and tuberculosis etc. Now cancer and diabetics r ruling.
yes .
long back it was typhoid and malaria
Let us end here. Propagate, educate ppl againstroot of all, pollution, collusion GM food etc.
Under delhi MCD there r more than one lakh industry working on e-waste, recovering lead from old batteries. MCD did nt act on court order for five years . Where is governance. Officials, leaderssell our country for kick backs?
Bye
Agree.
Eating spinach in 180gms is not desirable . In that quantity the nutrient is less & toxic poison is more . In stead we can go for pumpkin seeds which are rich in zinc , and which is lesser evil.This is not an argument for the sake of argument , but a harsh fact.In recent surveys in karnataka ,kerala ,AP , it is discovered that the vegetables like cabbage , carrots , cauliflowers , cucumber , tomato , in fact all vegetables recommended by doctors for nutrition are highly poisonous and beyond usable condition .
Since many members in the forum are very serious about the eradication of diabetes , they can take up an independent survey and find out the truth . The toxic poisons which we are taking in the name of healthy diet is going to spell doom in another 3 or 4 years beyond repair unless steps are taken on war footing . My special request to all is not to brush it off as scare mongering . No amount of medicines , yoga , vitamins , special diets will retrieve the situation .Let us not compare with conditions and situation abroad .Even milk and milk products are not considered safe any more now here , according to my sources .
Will there be any scope for kidney stone?
I AM not refuting your point . You can go with your recommendations by all means . I am just disussing the aspects which would give problems in the near future . As it is we don't have any other options . I do accept that . I am asking not to take huge quantities . I am advising to take idlies , dosas etc by all means but all in limited quantities , spreading the total intake over four or five sittings .My advise is to totally avoid foods with empty calories.
yes , right now till things change ..Milk and milk products from pure gross fed animals is the best . But now I came to know that cows and bufellows are fed with left over meat pieces , given hormone injections for better yield and antibiotics for infections. Where has come my country from a state where cow was venerated as gomatha .
We have derailed from the tight track. Mad leaders corrupt officials ganged up to this situation. Now food imported from China can be distingjurshed for its heay pesticide. Plant in your roof garden vegetable and survive. Or mobilise people for large scale campaigning for pesticide/ Afulyratipn free food
Yes , That's why I said , till such time we have alternative sources . As far as China is concerned , the less said the better . ANY product from them is of substandard quality .
I have info from reliable sources . In any case , it is a news and members can make their own conclusions .ANY way this is the latest scenario .Cows are fed chicken pieces and meat pieces in India according to latest information .
OMEGA 3 fatty acids help the body to absorb nutrients , prevent muscle cramps and help muscle cell proliferation. WE get omega 3 fatty acids from sesame seeds , seeds , flax seeds ,melon seeds , mlillets pumpkin seeds etc . In our country ordinary middle class families can't afford walnuts , almonds where every family literally has 2 or 3 diabetes patients .Whole cereal grains contain thiamine which is also known as B1 . B1 deficiency causes polyneuritis and optic neuropathy . Diabetics have to take thiamine , that is B1 to avoid muscular atrophy ,heart failure and peripheral neuropathy . What is fun of waiting for neuropathy and taking prescriptions such as alpha lipoic acid where in regular intake of whole grains such as ragi , zola , sorghum , pearl millets , bajra etc all prevent that danger , even reverse that when it takes place.
SOME TYPES OF MILLETS can be cooked like rice , made as idlies and dosas , can be baked , can be made sweets , porridge . The list is vast . They have vitamins , calcium , iron , zinc , ,have proteins are gluten free . Thus they are wholesome , and nutritious food where as filling and satisfying .
Kindly look at the body as a control system consisting of multiple feed back loops
The process will have to be in a dynamic state. During transitions imbalance is a possibility and between corrections the error state is a disease state.
Rest of it, you can imagine.
Accept or reject my informstion
Why arguing at length?
May be 10% might benefit if not all. Sol is not expensive, no adverse effects.
Need to wait for a couple of weeks To.know results.
Why u want to prove others r wrong and u r right? What anyone gain.
Cows and buffalo are injected with Oxytocin
medicalnewstoday.com/articl...
Its is generally extracted from Pig...
It is injected to cows and many other animals..for safer delivery and milk production....
Of coz residue of said hormone is also found in milk produced by said animal.... It has got many side effects...such as early puberty....
May be early puberty means early aging??? is that the reason why very young ppl are getting diabetic??
But forget milk.... watch this video....same oxytocin is injected to vegetables even... 
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Sir what should be the fasting insulin? whether we have to go for fasting insulin or fasting C peptide test? please advice me
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