What is an ideal or healthy weight ?

Heathy or ideal weight depends on several factors, including their age,sex ,body type,bone density, muscle- fat ratio, overall general health and height.

Since last few decades, BMI (Body Mass Index ) was being used as an excellent means to calculate healthy weight. This method has a few drawbacks,so now Waist - Hip - Ratio (WHR ) is being considered more accurate. So, let us know a little about WHR.

Waist Hip Ratio -- looks at the ratio of a persons waist circumference with their hip circumstance. Waist circumference divided by Hip circumference is WHR.

Target of WHR


For Men,

Less than 0.9. Very low cardiovascular risk

0.9 to 0.99. Moderate cv risk

More than 1.0. Cv risk high

For Women

Less than 0.8. Very low cardiovascular risk

0.8 to. 0.89. Moderate cv risk

0.9. Or more. High cv risk.

WHR gives much better idea regarding how near you are to a healthy weight compared to. BMI.

A female with WHR of 0.8 tends to be healthier and more fertile and runs a much lower risk of developing many cancers, CVD and Diabetes.

Though it has also a bit of drawback,but still most agree, it is superior predictor of health risk and a better measure of ideal weight.


38 Replies

  • BMI is irrelevant/useless:



    W:H ratio is better.

    Thumb rule: Get waist < 0.5 X height and it's good. One can still be overweight as per BMI even if one achieves this and that's why BMI has become irrelevant.

  • BMI is neither useless or irrelevant.It is still being used universally despite its certain short comings. Even WHR is not without drawbacks.

  • Yes because it makes insurance companies lot of extra money. It's just like the SFA causes CVD/CHD theory. A Caliper works better than BMI.

  • How ?

  • Refer Google :)

  • So,nothing to support your contention.😀

  • Sometimes I avoid spoon feeding to keep the discussions short. Hint is enough to hunt.

  • Bowl is empty,no food in it,so please do not try to take us for a ride .

  • Hint should be enough for hunting. Please don't get personal as no one is taking anyone for a ride. Who is this us? 3 or 4 here?

  • anup

    It should be evident that certain guys want you banned. They will support theory of curing diabetes by eating some special wheat but ask for double blind RCT approved by ADA when it comes to LCHF. Some of them even postulate unacceptable theories on how that wheat works and try to sound so convincing.

    Ignore them and their provocations. Let them just talk among themselves and be happy.

  • There is nothing personal, please do not twist.. You are not so naive, not to understand that we represent all in forum who are reading these blogs and not 3-4 as per distortion

  • Really? I haven't seen anyone else making same personal statements except for a handful few.

  • Come clear in open, name them with sufficient evidence. Why those unfounded oblique comments ?

  • Why don't you search on forum? You will find it if you want to. It's pretty evident.

  • Thank you for your admission.

  • No doubt BMI is useless number. Statistical analysis doesn't explain ground realities in health and medicine and that's why so many theories and drugs fail. Taking data and then eliminating certain set of data to help attain a greater confidence ratio is nothing but data dredging to explain a hypothesis which has no scientific background.

  • It is easy to find fault with universally accepted norms. Can you suggest any other fool proof system ?

  • Universally accepted or Universally FORCED into acceptance without any proof?

    Ref article no 2 in first reply by your friend anup.

    Medical science there's nothing foolproof except profits of healthcare system. All theories are designed for that.

  • Your blog is self explanatory. Nothing to add as it clearly shows that a few live in the world of their own,far from reality.

  • Stop being judgmental about fellow bloggers.

  • Stop abusing.

  • dear patliputra,

    when the great Quetelet ,

    Belgian mathematician and astronomer

    formulated the bmi

    he was after the average man ,not the healthy man.that was in the 19th century,.


    he was looking through the telescope and was after the average star first,.!!!

    may many years later after around 1945

    medical men after considering

    several indices

    chose the quetelet index.as a pointer to health .

    it was Ansel keys the great physiologist ,diet scientist who saved the life of millions from high fat death ,

    who gave the name BODY MASS INDEX>

    i think in a healthy man whr and bmi will point similarly.

    but when ill health arrives bmi is a better pointer.

    otherwise why the scientists are not replacing it? and ill health is both

    over fat all over the body as well as fat in the hip alone.people who cannot asses the size of a situation or statistics cannot grasp this.

    in other words

    if a person goes fat all over the body and not merely his hip ,

    bmi will tell something is wrong.

    where as the whr will keep silent.

    the great new castle experiments proved.:-=

    reduce weight .

    then fat comes down in liver and pancreas.

    then betacells function better.

    you may have

    reversed diabetes.

    this is why i always dissuade people from going to high fat eating which is a detriment for atherosclerosis overweight and

    destruction of pancreatic function-

    note=not the cell destruction. but cell function..

    good luck

  • "it was Ansel keys the great physiologist ,diet scientist who saved the life of millions from high fat death ,

    Really? He fudged data to prove his point. The fact that CVD/CHD remains the biggest killer even in the US even decades later proves it so. 15 countries according to his initial lot of 22 was PARADOX and only 7 fitted his regression analysis. What a pity!!! Science also does cherry picking?

    In fact after his FAILED theory -- which lead to most horrible diet called High Carb Low fat -- obesity, diabetes, cancer ... talk of anything and it has gone up by 200 to 300%.

    More than 4 decades later there are 100's of studies to show that SFA doesn't cause CVD/CHD. There's absolutely NO PROOF. That's why LCHF works so great not just for diabetes but even LIPIDS. Fat Versus CVD/CHD is a FAILED Theory -- a Myth.

    It's the HIGH CARBS that's killing people -- 1 diabetic every 7 seconds across the world is dying. Thank you Ancel Keys for giving the world the so called Healthy Diet -- High Carbs Low Fat -- which has successfully made the human population more sick than ever!

    Next generation will be Thanking BASF and Monsanto for ruining every major crop on earth!!!

  • Ancel keys did save millions of lives during ww11,with his back pack food. Rest is only repeatation, again and again ,of same unnecessary and uncalled for and irrelevant comments ,amounting to forceful feeding.

  • Please don't be judgmental about fellow bloggers. Not good.

    Also, please look at context. The context is his theory saved people from HIGH FAT. WWII is not about FAT causing cvd/chd.

    Many are tying to be forceful with unnecessary, uncalled for and insulting comments like "road side dot coms", white powder etc against anyone who talks LCHF. Oppose them if you have to.

  • Some have taken on themselves to abuse globally recognised and respected organisations ,people who are neither qualified or have the authenticity . These people by their never ending rhetoric are continually insulting those organisations as well as people who have faith on them.

    They think they have right to judge all the peoples comments and pass derogatory comments.

  • Hey,

    LCHF is discussed on ADA forums also. ADA is criticized on ADA forums also.

    LCHF works and it works out of the box. Qualified or not, we let the medical reports do the talking.

    Nothing derogatory in what we say as we say what many doctors around the world are saying it -- being critical of ADA's recommendations.

    We aren't calling them "road side dot coms" or parrot-and-puppet show (can you recall who used this term on this forum against diabetics on LCHF??) ... we are just being critical of their recommendations. And, we are delivering results and not just dishing out opinions for the heck of it.

    Pragya (a diabetic lady on this forum) is launching a LCHF site. You know why all this is happening? Because LCHF works and ADA diet is a failure and I am happy that what I started talking in January 2013 is really growing :)

    Not responding after this.

    Take care!

  • Criticising and abusing are two different things.

    BTW Pragya is opening not a lchf site,she is launching a cooking web site.

    Be happy.

  • BTW, re-Read again the first line:



    BTW, don't come back saying she didn't mention high fat. Low Carb is usually high fat even as per beloved MAYO.

    Making lauki kheer in coconut milk is not just LOW CARB ;)

  • I will go for Lauki kheer only if the coconut milk used is not a canned one.😀

  • dear patliputra,

    like quetelet who was after the average star

    in 1996 when i tried to learn world economy- per capita income, per capita purchase capacity etc

    i paused for a surprising question to myself.

    is the wealth of a nation correlates to their scientific achievements?

    i quickly flipped through the encyclopedias and found

    after the second world war more than

    50 percent of Nobel prices[ in medicine and physiology too] go to USA.

    points to =they have more than 50 percent of the laboratories of the world.

    in diabetes too they have more than 50 percent of top scientists= in the ada.

    ada is not next door neighbor's cattle boy.

    ada naturally contains more than 50 percent of of worlds top diabetologists.

    there is no such thing as ADA diet.

    give evidence.

    i will change my view.

    they say, and WHO AND EU countries

    all the world


    there is no diabetic diet.

    because the body wants a balanced diet

    whether you are a diabetic or non diabetic.

    you have a perfect sense of understanding . otherwise i would have a feeling of wasting my time writing long .

    thanks for listening.

    good luck.

  • (1) Why is 1 diabetic dying every 7 seconds in the world if ADA has great scientists? Or just their certificates are to be looked at, worshiped and rest everything, every ground reality is to be ignored?

    (2) Why has obesity and diabetes grown by 300% after Carb started increasing and fat started lowering? Why can't the great guys at ADA see this trend?

    Certificates and knowledge are no good if they can't answer these basic questions which "next door cattle boys" with no Nobel prize are answering with PROOF that's all over the place.

    Incidentally, Shahi Tharoor, a MP from Kerala, insulted every economy class traveller by calling them cattle class.

  • When one dies he/she can only be buried /cremated after his/her family produces a certificate of cause of death in India..Possibly this is the procedure in USA and other countries as well..This can be the basis of ascertaining proof why the diabetics died.

    It can be also due to not following the balanced diet but by following fad diet such as LCHF in their anxiety to reduce their obesity and there by lost pouns of weight quickly coupled with loss of nutrients and energy (required to sustain life available only in balanced die).

    The "nextdoor cattle boys" with no noble prize referred to here cant produce proof or have not producd any proof although they claim to have one. Merely posing questions on what happened in USA does not justify the fact that following a crash diet is not harmful.

    In so far as shasi tharoor insulting econmy travellers,the blogger could take up with him and not expect answer in this forum.

  • Those who are seeing the proof are switching to LCHF and benefiting. That's about it.

    Rest can keep opposing LCHF and keep supporting something that claims complete CURE. LCHF is growing faster, despite no claims of CURE. No one following LCHF would ever be bothered to debate whether diabetes can be cured or not, because it cannot be cured, as of now. We preach what we practice and no one should have any problems about it.

  • Listen to the band of a Type 2 diabetic who is witching to LCHF on our forum. Lead guitarist is the one who is all set to switch. Lovely music and lovely lyrics .... music can really help mental aplomb and younger generation will change things for sure as they have a long long life ahead as a diabetic :)

    And then listen to the following. Since it's English, I am posting the one with lyrics ....!

  • irrelevent reply to a pertinent question which remains un answered.

  • What is your Question?

  • Welcome back after 2 years!

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