Carnivore diet cure Parkinson’s

[TL500]

Has anyone tried carnivore diet and find improvement?

Do you believe this story:youtu.be/VkTq-3-Gjx8?si=mQX...(Not working as expected?)

[MBAnderson]

There are posts on here from pwp who say it has helped them, some say a great deal, and we have no reason to doubt them. While others say it hasn't or made matters worse. I almost tried it, but ultimately felt the odds of it helping and considerinng the downside, weren't good enough.

All of which is to say, like everything else, it will help some and not others and there is no way of knowing unless you try it.

Please let us know if you do.

[TL500 in reply to MBAnderson]

Thanks. I don't know how to do carnivore diet. My pd seems to not suit animal proteins if I eat full. It has to be not still too full after average one hour of eating protein, especially animal's , then I can take pd meds to get it to work. Or I take it before protein few minutes then eat is usually ok, but I have to not eat until meds time to take it first. I think that's why I lost weight/muscle mass.

[MBAnderson in reply to TL500]

That too, plus, such a diet requires knowing if it is causing diffecencies or imbalances of various essential nutrients. You might have a blood panel before to see if you have any which might be exacerbated by such. For example, excessive iron is an issue for a lot of us (and I have too high of levels) which would likely be worsened by a carnivore diet.

[TL500 in reply to MBAnderson]

I had high iron levels too, from previous blood tests, but maybe not the latest test.

If someone has anaemia, are they low in iron? I’m asking for a non pd person. Thanks

[MBAnderson in reply to TL500]

Not always.

Anemia is low red blood cells, altho it is often caused by low iron levels.

[Bolt_Upright in reply to MBAnderson]

I'm not sure there is a downside to carnivore, not unless you listen to "experts" (which I don't).

[MBAnderson in reply to Bolt_Upright]

Sometimes some experts should be listened to.

Since you're an AI fan.

To name just a few

"Nutrient Deficiencies – A lack of fruits, vegetables, and grains can lead to deficiencies in fiber, vitamin C, folate, and antioxidants, which are crucial for overall health.

High Saturated Fat & Cholesterol – Excessive intake of red and processed meats can increase the risk of heart disease by raising LDL cholesterol levels.

Gut Health Issues – The absence of fiber can negatively affect gut microbiota, leading to constipation, bloating, and long-term digestive issues.

Increased Risk of Chronic Diseases – Some studies link high consumption of red and processed meat to an increased risk of heart disease, colorectal cancer, and kidney disease.

Possible Kidney Strain – High protein intake can put stress on the kidneys, especially for individuals with pre-existing kidney conditions.

Lack of Beneficial Plant Compounds – Phytochemicals and antioxidants found in plants have protective effects against inflammation, aging, and diseases like cancer.

Sustainability & Ethical Concerns

Environmental Impact – Meat production, especially beef, contributes significantly to greenhouse gas emissions, deforestation, and water consumption.

Animal Welfare – The diet relies entirely on animal products, which raises ethical concerns about factory farming and animal suffering.

Practical & Social Challenges

Limited Food Variety – The diet is highly restrictive, making it difficult to maintain long-term.

Costly – High-quality meat can be expensive compared to plant-based foods.

Social & Lifestyle Barriers – Eating out or attending social events can be challenging since most meals include plant-based ingredients.

While some people report short-term benefits like weight loss and reduced inflammation, the long-term health effects remain a concern due to the potential for deficiencies and chronic disease risks. "

[Bolt_Upright in reply to MBAnderson]

Say what you want about me, but don't insult my friend Claude

You know they used to spew the same hate about the Adkins diet and plenty of nutritionists are down on keto.

As for myself, I think the carnivore diet is fine. I just like more variety and my HS educated brain wonders if what people on carnivore are really doing is avoiding gluten and lectins.

I believe my diet, that is gluten and lectin free, and only includes ruminant meat (beef) may have the same curative power of carnivore. In fact, I think if carnivores are eating non-ruminant meat, they may be missing the mark. I think they call the ruminant meat diet the Lion Diet.

[MBAnderson in reply to Bolt_Upright]

good point - as usual

[Kruidje in reply to MBAnderson]

Please name the minerals and vitamines that are lacked! There are non!

For folate and other b's there is no problem, it is the other way round. The less animal products the more deficiencies: pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/169... B-vitamin status and concentrations of homocysteine in Austrian omnivores, vegetarians and vegans (B1, B2, B12, folate)

Saturated fat is not a problem for mortality. But the other way arround again. The more unsaturated fats the worse: search for :Re-evaluation of the traditional diet-heart hypothesis: analysis of recovered data from Minnesota Coronary Experiment (1968-73)

Do one need vesels? Dr Mason is happy to tell you: youtube.com/watch?v=xqUO4P9...(Not working as expected?)

Cholesterol is no problem:

m.youtube.com/watch?v=jyzkv...(Not working as expected?) tim noakes

youtu.be/DXKJaQeteE0(Not working as expected?)

youtu.be/y8pybQjVeiQ(Not working as expected?)

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/325... no higher mortaliteit with saturated fats.

journals.lww.com/co-endocri... no need for statines with high ldl when lowcarb.

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articl...

Dr. Aseem Malhotra - 'Evidence Based Medicine Has Been Hijacked' cholesterol lowering medication gives no longer life.

bjsm.bmj.com/content/51/10/769 dietrules sucs.

youtu.be/o_QdNX9etCg(Not working as expected?) does statins lower mortality?

functionalmedicineuniversit... people with high cholesterol live longer.

jamesgreenblattmd.com/medic...

sciencedirect.com/science/a...

youtu.be/uYav10f9P-Y(Not working as expected?) professor david daimond

researchgate.net/publicatio...

thescipub.com/abstract/ojbs...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/280... Intake of up to 3 Eggs per Day Is Associated with Changes in HDL Function and Increased Plasma Antioxidants in Healthy, Young Adults

For the rest you mentioned lots of "can"s. But no proof.

[MBAnderson in reply to Kruidje]

Thank you for the thorough reply, but that some doctors support it means little to me because having watched hundreds of similar videos, I find many doctors are quacks and I am unable to tell them apart.

The studies you site do mean something and I will review them.

I take it you have been on a carnivore diet & for how long?

[MBAnderson in reply to Kruidje]

I picked the link to Functional Medicine University randomly.

"... who reported in 1994 that old people with low cholesterol died twice as often from a heart attack as did old people with a high cholesterol."

While my cholesterol is slightly elevated which doesn't concern me because I agree high cholesterol (within limits) isn't bad, I don't believe that people with low cholesterol died at twice the rate of people with high cholesterol.

It is an article and I don't know enough Functional Medicine University to consider them totally credible.

[MBAnderson in reply to MBAnderson]

This link

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/169...

asserts problems with vegan and vegetarian diets, which I said nothing about.

I see that in much of the content you post you are making the case against claims I did not make. Why, for example, are you arguing against statins?

Essentially, I believe there is an equal amount, if not greater number, of studies that conclude red meat isn't healthy.

I remain undecided about trying a carnivore diet, for now, altho I have been leaning against it. If I try it, it will be for a month or two, at the most.

I will continue to explore your relevant content.

[MBAnderson in reply to MBAnderson]

Same with this link as it regards cholesterol.

thescipub.com/abstract/ojbs...

I made the point that a strickly carnivore diet comes with health risks. Nothing more.

i feel it would be more useful to debate that point alone.

[MBAnderson in reply to MBAnderson]

Same with this link pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/280... a study toutng the benefits of eating 3 eggs/day. Irrelevant, altho I eat 3 eggs/day.

[Bolt_Upright in reply to Kruidje]

That was a tour de force post! I will be saving that information. Thanks.

[michelagvolpe]

Eat everything: Variety of food makes you stronger, better if food is not ultra-processed

[Edge999]

i am ketovore with coconut oil for 180 days now and it helps my non motor symptoms alot. I still shake though…

[TL500 in reply to Edge999]

Can you share how you do ketovore please? Thanks

[Edge999 in reply to TL500]

Alot of meat and low carb veg, less than 20g carbs a day

[TL500 in reply to Edge999]

thanks . What about fat?

[TL500 in reply to Edge999]

You don’t have problem with meat (protein) and meds close to each other?

[tomstuff in reply to TL500]

Which non motor symptoms is it helping?

[Peaceful-living]

I have been doing carnivore for 1.5 years and feels very beneficial. The goal is to use fat for fuel. I found this much easier to do than a ketogenic diet. Carnivore diet is also good to relax the gut, my digestive system is much more efficient on this diet.

[TL500 in reply to Peaceful-living]

You don’t have problem with protein versus meds?

[amykp]

I've also been on pretty strict ketogenic diet (<30g carbs/day) for ten years and I think it's kept my progression relatively slow.

It's not carnivore though--I eat green veggies and nuts and occasionally tofu and berries, and LOTS of high fat dairy and eggs. That's not so much because I think carnivore would be unhealthy--it's more because I' don't love meat. Also, I imagine after ten years I'd be pretty sick of it.

But one thing I do know: you DO NOT need carbs to stay fit and healthy!

[TL500 in reply to amykp]

What green veggies and nuts and high fat dairy do you eat?

How many eggs per day do you eat? Thanks

[TL500]

Thankyou all for your input and information and suggestions